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PVE channel for lifeskillers and none pvp players.

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by RevelationsOn, May 6, 2018.

  1. RevelationsOn

    RevelationsOn Proficient

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    As we all know, a lot of people have been quitting due to bullying by certain guilds or a pvp player who just wants to kill for fun and boredom.
    BDO is not just for pvp, theres tons of things to do such as lifeskills.

    I believe that creating a none pvp channel is one way to get more people here since other servers even retail do not have that yet. It will be a pioneer move for gamezbd and only competitive guilds and players or geared players will go to the pvp channels.
    For all who thinks this is a NOT a good idea, then most likely your one of those bully lol.

    credits GM Noyah for the idea on the other thread...

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  2. FuRiouS

    FuRiouS Legendary Member

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    NO, this is not what the game is designed for. You think the population is bad now? Do this and it will only get worse.
     
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    Exactly one of those people who just wants to pvp all day long. It's a suggestion and GM Noyah brought it up; how bad is it for those who wants to PVE and just do lifeskill? For you that are focused on killing newbies or ganked up on Guild wars on guild not even wanting to pvp then yeah it will be really boring for you huh?
     
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    then to keep it from getting toxic, a non pvp channel can be a channel where unless you are engaged in combat then you cannot engage in pvp. i say this due to the fact that people would try to use this channel to grief players grinding mobs since they are safe from flagging, so if it is made to where it is a non pvp server with the exception of combat mode being a trigger for pvp then it could work. people wanting to life skill gathering or horse training would not be effected by a combat check trigger on the disabled pvp aspect of the server.
     
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    Im a lifeskiller! Only time I pvp is in RBF and at grind spots "IF" i feel up for it. 75% of my time in BDO is lifeskilling sorry. I PvE AND lifeskill just fine, If i feel a grief coming on no biggy, ill swap channels or find a new spot, or even just go gather/craft. Griefing is part of BDO, why people continue to complain against it is beyond me... Having a pve ONLY channel will destroy this server, 20+ people CANT grind at the same spot lol, thus is why open world pvp is an option.
     
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    Sorry but... if u play this game just for life skill, just go play Farming Simulator+Fishing Simulator that are more realistic. You can always play with characters under 50 if dont want to be pked.
    Just remember that Lifeskilling is what killed the retail version (cause everyone plays afk). dont bring that here
     
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    FuRiouS Legendary Member

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    This is just plain ignorant. I am a life skiller and I enjoy BDO due to the freedom of it, I can do anything I wish in the game at any time. If I wanna gather sheep all day I can, If I wanna flag up and try to kill every joe blow I see I can, If I wanna chop wood in town while watching porn I can. If you are going to defend this game at least use common sense, Retail is nowhere near dead lol. Gamez is nowhere near dead, just losing carebears and bored players waiting on node wars on a daily basis but yet bringing in fresh new players to replace them.

    Again, I too am a life skiller and get PKed a lot while trying to gather and or grind by stronger players but do i come crying to the devs asking for a PVE only server? NO, It will destroy this community and game as its not designed for that. Learn to adapt to each situation and overcome the challenges that you are faced with.
     
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    Are you sure I go crying to devs for it? LOL
    It was GM Noyah's suggestion and I officially brought it up here. If you don't know the fact or history then don't go commenting something that you don't know whats going on.
    It came up from "http://forum.gameznetwork.com/threa...long-tough-run-bullys-ruining-the-game.219079"

    AND no wonder retail/official players hate you FML so much due to your insensitivity and trying to defend yourselves.
    If someone ganks up on World bosses killing everyone they see that they are on perma war on that guild then that simply means your trying to own that WB which leads to bullying which everyone hates and I was also surprised Vampy of Instict who quit was also against it and said it should stop lol.
     
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    FuRiouS Legendary Member

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    I know where all this is coming from. It happened and still continues to come up in retail forums since NA launch. Sorry to use the term but yes, cry babies throwing a fit over a PvP oriented game. Even Noyah's suggestion is wrong and will, as I said to your suggestion, destroy the game/server.

    Not sure if you are implying im in FML but if you are you are wrong, sorry. I am also not fan boi'ing them either, I have been killed by their members server times and suck it up and move on to another channel or another task completely as I know this game is designed around PvP and there will always be someone stronger then me or have more people then then I can bring and just learn to deal with it or work around it creatively, NOT come to the forums throwing a temper tantrum about PvP in a PvP game. I have also been victim to FML and other toxic guilds griefing me and a guild I was in on retail, that is not why I left, I actually enjoyed that aspect of the game. The challenges I had to face and plan my ventures out into the wild very carefully or risk being stomped into the ground non stop til I found another approach.

    The game is designed around PvP.
    You are allowed to flag up and kill anyone you wish as long as they are lvl 50+.
    You are allowed to declare war on any guild you choose and stay dec'ed on them for however long you wish.
    You are allowed to spawn camp killing anyone you wish til they choose to spawn in town (there are mild safeguards in place to prevent some spawn camping, you also have the choice to spawn town).
    You are allowed to talk a bit of mild trash talk in chat as long as it doesnt over step any ToS said server has set in place (Which GameZ still has yet to officially write out for GameZBD).
    This is how the game is built. You turn PvP function off it will completely destroy how the game operates plain and simple.

    You are NOT being bullied, You are being PvP'ed in a PvP designed video game! Simple fact.
     
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    up on this :) Pretty easy solution if you're bothered by not being able to PK for grind spots, then go to PVP channel LOL pretty sure it's that simple. Players who can dealt with it can stay there and that people who can't can leave. I think that's pretty common sense tbh. No one will be forcing you to stay there and pve with other ppl if you don't want to. It's not like they're removing one of the 4 channels and changing it to a non-pvp channel. GM Noyha said they'll "think about adding a non-pvp channel" from that post. :cool::cool:

    "Common sense isn't common enough" - Voltaire
     
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    Common sense would tell you this will not work in this game as its designed to have pvp at grind spots for a reason. You ad a pve ONLY channel and everyone will flock there and you will end up with 10-20+ people all fighting over the same grind spots (in multiple mob locations) and no way to get rid of them which in turns breaks the design of the game, again common sense comes into play here. I assure you there will even be people that dont intend on grinding at said spot but only there just to grief this ignorant decision into the ground, strong players coming to the pve channel just to take over ALL popular grind spots stealing ALL popular mobs keeping any low geared players from progressing at ALL. No one can rally their friends or guild mates to come help rid these players as you are unable to pvp, flag or war said strong players stealing all the mobs in said popular grind spot.

    "Nonsense is so good only because common sense is so limited." George Santayana
     
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    Yikes. This suggestion defeats all purpose. That channel will end up in a true griefer channel.
     
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    The game is built around pvp for resources. Have fun when full pen player roll in on a wizard or ranger and clear out he entire area with out any consequences or any way to stop them. The desert is already bad as you cant really flag up with out getting outlawed. pls no greifer channel this game needs OW PvP as that how its built.
     
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    here's a idea how about the GM's actually hold the guild's that are griefing decing just to kill guild's and node camp and killing the server accountable now that's a idea...
     
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    How about the guilds that have griefers in them that caused the perma dec in the first place hold their members accountable for their griefing in the first place so we dont have to.

    p.s. There is no spawn camping in BDO since you can spawn at town and have a full minute of invincibility till you pull out a weapon.
     
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    There is, IF you spawn on the same node instead of town. There's no such thing as invincibility well as far as I am aware of when we tested it lol. You can get killed while a wiz/witch or any AOE'r spamming on the area where your about to spawn, just like in RBF if you play in RBF.
     
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    It does work I was killing people yesterday at node and they had invulnerability till they took out a weapon or stood around for a minute. And it doesn't matter if there wasn't invulnerability just dont spawn at node if you don't like dying at node.
     
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    In my opinion, if you are just doing some life skills "that day" or "that week", go to other channels. There are 4 channels where, most likely, you can hide and have some peace and quiet.
     
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    I would entirely support this as long as those joining that channel are not allowed to go into diffrent channels. As long as they`re locked in the PvE Channel with their Characters im fine with it. Other than that there is no way of realizing it as it would simply cause abuse. But since you cant lock Characters or Accounts to a channel, atleast to my knowledge, i guess this wont be possible

    In advance: Sry for the double post but i couldnt find a way to include another quote editing my Reply.

    You Sir are the reason people ask for this channel. I mya and hopefully missunderstood the message but from what i read here i comprehend that neither did you understand the PvP System and Spawn Protection in this game nor are you fighting with any Sport, youre just killing less geared people out of boredom and without any justification. Well done.
     
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    finally, someone who understood.
    no worries, the bullies are lesser now. fml guild is not that active anymore which is the main reason this was brought out as a topic.

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