Another MR/MA thread, with evidence from retail players

I dont know why gamez are insisting that skills such as silence arrow are not broken. Just trying to help here, as you want to be retail like right? So i asked the question on aionsource and, as i already knew, the debuffs in these skills ARE m acc based.

I saw silence arrow thread in crystal closed, because silence arrow is 'physical'. This is wrong, and most physical skills carry a debuff which is MAGICAL ACC based.

So basically, if the caster (who has 1100 MA) used such a skill, with the best example being silence arrow, the target will recieve all damage from the skill as long as it is not evaded/parried/blocked, but it the target has for example 1600 MR the silence EFFECT will be resisted with 50% chance.

I saw that in the bug report, mr of some skills as a known bug was removed. So i asked the question myself for you in aionsource forums right here:

http://www.aionsource.com/topic/127773-silence-arrow-is-it-magic-accuracy-based/

Already 2 replies support what i say, from experienced players.

A bit of searching will also support this:

http://www.aionsource.com/topic/126346-ranger-best-stats-on-25/
http://www.aionsource.com/topic/126478-macc-in-25/
http://www.aionsource.com/topic/126225-gladiskills-magicaccuracy/
http://www.aionsource.com/topic/126165-25-assassin/
http://www.aionsource.com/topic/125466-magic-resist-and-aether-armor/

MR, or the MA of some physical skill with debuffs, is BROKEN, i hope this helps for you to fix it, il post in bug report too.

 

If this information is accurate, then please send a message to evilset with this information since he's one of the developers in charge of working with the stats.

This might be a good source to help fix some of the MR issues.

Great finding and thanks for the information.

 

Oop. I might not switch my sorc to sin, I'll wait a bit more.

 

Are you Greek? Your name seems greek xD

Anyway and obviously the skills are physical but the effect is magical..obviously lol..but i think i never resisted a silence effect lately,my magic resist is 2300 so i dont think there is any ranger in this server who has higher mac than my resist rofl.

 

Sorcs and clerics are op enough. I say make ranger debuffs magic based and leave sins alone!!!!

 

Sorc is op since it can deal 10k crit dmg. But why is cleric OP? Nothing special,good heals only keep clerics alive,their dmg isnt big..

 

the problem here is that even if toy have 56k MR is only a 60% cap that you will resist, in retailfull MR built = fail

 

I already sended a pm to carl about this cuz seems that its the only posible way to report a bug ,...

Yes silence arrow its psihical skill with MAGICAL effect and the effect should be resisted by mr !



Assasin skills that should be resisted with mr are ambush and the runes .....

 

Mostly for their ability to dispel everything.....and the block ones take little damage. I mean an ABG cleric can easily get 2600+ block and maintain 1800 mr. That's Op D:

 

MMMMM A SEXY GREEK! WHO SPEAKS WHAT I SAID EARLIER MMMMM

Aegis liek

 

Aegis are you gay?

 

Then I will go sin :whistling: Just don't make fundamental stuns non-stop resistable. >_>

 

There is that and also the clerics that are going Parry/MR they're quite annoying to fight against specially if you're melee.

 

Aegis? Gay? Impossible.

 

oh god i'm so done with gamez network lmao

 

Yea you are right,but 2600 block isn't enough. And 1800 resist isnt enough as well. You either go full block which will lead you to have 3100 block or go full resist which will lead you to have 2300 resist. My point is that no matter what built cleric cant beat both magical and physical users,and to be honest block is as good as it gets,you cant really rely on block with a cleric. Yes you will be blocking most of the physical attacks but when a sorc or sm comes you are screwed,even with a 30-70 based build as you said,its not enough. If cleric was the ultimate class everyone would have clerics.. Im a cleric i know the positive sides and the down sides..


PS: Parry isnt good if you are a cleric,already tested..Besides block dmg deduction is better than parry,why put parry rofl..Unless you use a staff,but no serious cleric uses a staff.

 

Hahahaha. Nah im not greek, i just like greece.

But yeah, the weird thing is it got fixed (around 1 month ago) for around 2 days then it got removed in a later update.
Besides, this is why so many good players in retail (especially on perento) carry multiple sets, including one with MA. It makes for more fun fighting, switching sets. No good blanking the fact that its broken here. And the good thing for gamez means some may buy extra sets from credit shop to slot with MA. There are classes who already benefit from MA buffs also.

 

obviously, that's why some retail rangers and sin carry MA stuff around. and other class have MA boost skills. but atm in gamez those MA boost is just for show. no need at all. lol.and with block not working right atm, idk what to socket my cleric. got debuff and stun all the time, die in no time.
my retail chanter friend use hybrid build with MA. to land more debuff and stun.

 

I've tried my best to even come up with a complete build that can protect someone against all forms of offense.

Closest combatant has been the chanter.

 

There is no such class or built that can protect against physical and magical at the same time,but you are right chanters can come close to that goal because of all those buffs and mantras.