Ranger's DPS Still OP

Ranger DPS is not just fine, its great. Like i put in that thread, its as though they wana kill ppl with 4 skills in 2 secs at range. If you attack targets unbuffed then you deserve to die to them. Apart from that you got sleep arrow, loads of traps, hide etc..

 

Exactly

 

OK
first of all, i'm rly tired irl cuz i'm rly busy at work this month...so don't cry if you find my post a bit aggressive cuz i'm rly irritated of players who just have played rangers for 1 month, trying to teach me my class...roflmao
this isn't a simple poor sin who could teach me the class i have played for 1 year >.<
but that doesn't matter, lets talk about the main thing ok?

So
First: i have already proven how rangers' dps have been nerfed a plenty of times, on your post:
it has been proven with your own video...so you can't say "you have cheated the dmg, you have used special effect, you have called steven spielberg to do it..."...

i have posted a long post about rangers' dps on the general section...i suggest you to watch it carefully....many other rangers have agreed with me...so what? will you disagree with all rangers? maybe you are a supposed "good" sin...but don't even try to argue about rangers with me/99% of rangers...ty :whistling:


second: well your argument "i'm eat and my dmg are still huge on abg sorcers" doesn't work since when you move from eat to abg...as ranger...your dps doesn't increase incredibly.moving from eat to abg for a ranger, only increase by far your defense.
for his dps, a ranger only needs a good bow and good jewels...attack stones doesn't increase incredibly your dps too...
on retail, best rangers play ofc crit/attack, crit/hp or crit/mr...and even if they use the 2 last builds...they don't lose a lot of dps.
and even if it was the case...on your video you use enough buffs to beat everyone...even the texture.
by using your full buffs, i can say there is no big difference beetween an eat or abg ranger (about the dps) inched:


third: I don't rly like your method consisting on using FULL FULL FULL FULL buff...on real pvp you don't have full buffs. maybe you have tried to make ppl believing i'm a liar...i have only used bestial fury because this is the most important buff on pvp wich increase by 50% your attack (enough to prove how we have been nerfed)

fourth: as many noob rangers (sry but the truth), you use mostly mostly the second tree with the wind buff, to get all buffs, to get the most dps as you can...that means you still have big arrows with the most dps you can find on a ranger. and you still come with your arrogance to say "hey tritium i made a video when i wipe a sorcer..." ok, i just can advice to see more carefully what i have answered you on your pvp video. (quoted).

5th: lets talk about your dps on the video ok? your dps is high yes...but don't forget how many buffs you have used...
hum hum are you rdy? ok !:devil:

+30% of attack's effect, +50% attack, +20% attack speed,+20% attack,+10% attack, +100 crit, +50% attack ...

what did you expect? to put 500 dmg with big arrows? ROFLMAO

even if you find your dps low...regarding all the buffs you have used...you should put more than 1.4k dmg (your dmg average on the video)

so you make a crit/attack build stones (dps build), you use full buffs, you use big arrows and still expect your dmg to be lower than these? meh omg who are you? are you an alien? or simply a noob? or maybe you just cry about rangers because they can pwn your butt in no time if they are not nerfed?

ROFLMAO AT YOU DUDE...what a method you used to prove? to prove what? rangers have been nerfed, i has been proven, and agreed by many rangers...why do you say the contrary?

sorry if you have found my post too aggressive but i become rly bored of players who can't just admit obvious things...and i hate even more when ppl argue with arrogance, false things, without knowing anything :sick:


if you still doubt about the truth. i suggest you to make a full first-tree-stigma build and notice your dps...normally you would have to put 1k dmg easily...

 

dude his dmg was good even after focused shots ! More than 1k ... dunno .. realy now .. he didn't even had agg arrow ...

 

I don't find it aggresive. I find it idiotic. Doesn't matter how long you play you are still wrong. Ofc I'm fully buffed, what do you expect rangers to do 4k agon arrows on abg sorcs fully buffed? And most of second tree? No sir, I have only explosive and bow of blessing from that tree. As you can see heart shot, gale arrow, speed of wind and trap of slowing are all upper tree. I can hit well over 3k on a besh sorc with buffs. Hitting that much on a ABG would be retarded. You can keep saying, oh ranger is nerfed....our damage is so low, when in reality it isn't. You've been playing ranger a long time on a private server with different bugs. How can you POSSIBLY know what's correct and what isn't? Anyways if you think it's underpowered then don't play because I can assure you nothing will change. Also, as I said, the damage in the vid is obatainable with EAT including eat acces. I'm lacking on attack because I took out attack manastones. Average damage would no doubt be 2-2.3k damage if full ABG. Rangers are still powerful enough to take out all classes. Maybe you're not as good as you think

 

nothing more to say just! /AGREE!

 

ok?

so, well, oneway (an asura player) has a ranger on retail, i have made a lot of things with it to test what is right and what is wrong in all what ppl can say on gamez aion.
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i'm not the only one ranger saying it...so what? 99% of rangers are liars, and you say the truth?
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we don't expect rangers to put 4k arrows...and as i said...you can't feel the difference beetween 2.3k and 2.6k with dps builds...but when you use the first tree...you can rly feel the difference beetween 1K and 200
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as i said i don't like your methods...you have not recorded any video while using the first tree (like on mine), if your dmges are still high (2.2K+) then, come again and we would talk about it.
you you can't prove anything/remove my arguments as you've used the dps tree (wich means you have...dps!! ^^ )
i have talked about my stigma build, and YES i insist, with the first tree there is problem...


for the rest...all have been said on my posts...you are just insisting on things wich have been proven on my last posts...you have probably not cared about them so i suggest to see them carrefully...

don't want to argue anymore with ppl who don't know our class/use arsh methods to prove what THEY WANT TO PROVE/can't understand your posts, your arguments...

btw, that's not the only point i have tried to develop about rangers, traps don't work fine too...

 

just try to pvp with the first tree

 

Yea I get an extra 20% attack from the "dps tree" because 2 skills gives you sooooo much dps. Anyways you shouldn't expect 2k lightning arrows unless you're full buffed against a pvp def geared player. If you still think you should be hitting 2k+ then yea...w/e you say. And 99% of rangers are complaining? Sounds a lot like the sorcs saying it was right when they were doing 10k with dp skills. Seems like you want your classes OP damage back. Oh well.

 

If it aint nerfed it aint if it is then it is.

 

have we said we expect 2K dmg with lighting arrow? never , you have just build it in your head ^^, you have a good imagination
my dmg with lighting arrow are usually about 1.3k-1.4k (using bestial fury)

no it's about 700-800...and sometimes it only hits 400 (dunno why...)... kthxbye

 

have you seen your buffs or i was just dreamed? lack of attack with all buffs you have used? meh loool
can you give me the weed you smoke? it sounds efficient ^^

 

You did a 660 non crit with just bestial on an egt sorc. That'd be close to a 1.2k crit. With devotion that'd be 1.4k. You just proved yourself to be wrong and that ranger damage is in fact correct

If you're gonna make childish remarks like that, then it's obvious having a logical conversation with you is pointless.

 

o my~ a serious discussions.. o well, if its nerfed meaning it used to be imbalanced for other classes.. its not like every other class can solo in Aion anyway~ specially with the dp gain rate for like u know, Mau form?

& if u feel u cant solo well, get urself a group.. ie: find a chanter if u fell u need more atk, or a cleric if u wanna kite longer

besides i dont think Aion is intended/meant to solo raid all the time~ or else there'd be no capped stats & w/e

 

:sigh:
well, you must know how rangers' dps isn't static, not like sorcers could have...try to put the same arrow on the same player and you will find your dps isn't always the same...so i'm talking about average...don't you think there is a huge difference enough beetween 1.4K and 800, to not highlight it?

and well, maybe my remark was childish...but i think when you give obvious proofs wich can't be denyed, ppl coming to say the contrary with weird methods, still arguing without checking my arguments, etc etc ...who can still be patient after all posts wich have been made? ...

why this guy didn't simply make a video using the same buffs/same skills on a sorcer and show his dmg? then, if his dmg had been still "op" as he said, i would say " ok i'm wrong, maybe my char is bugged, i'll check it with AMs if there is something wrong"...

Most of ppl are just saying "rangers' dps is still op" without any proof, and just because they meet "dps rangers"...

do you think we are crying about our dps just for what? to put 8k arrows in order to 1 shot you and then saying "hahah we pwn you"?

do you think we flood the forum just for fun? do you think we have no tangible reason to do it? do you think i'm the only one "first-stigma tree user" who have found his dps lowered like hell? bah cmon don't be so stupid =(

i don't like posting on the forum and even less, flooding it, so trust me, there is something wrong...and seeing ppl just saying the contrary without any proof/by using arsh arguments just makes me annoyed...

in all case, i can just hope him to make a video proving how rangers' dps isn't nerfed, so i can talk with a gm about my char...but in this case...i wouldn't be the only one bugged char...

hopefully that you understand it :S


here is simca's pvp video...check his dmg...even if he has an abg bow on retail you can't say his 5k arrows can be nerfed to 2.3K on gamez

[video=youtube;-DcaBpOYttk]http/www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DcaBpOYttk[/video]

he uses a full crit/hp/mr manastones build...
his dps is better than yours....without even using full buffs...

 

He attack full buffed if you don't notice it...
Let's don't talk about the Sandstorm trap on sorc at 2:0

 

and yeah the traps are working there? oh sorry this is gamezaion feature ''your traps will never explode and if they explode it will miss him ''

 

ROFLMAO...

@stevesxl: at 2:0 he uses a blind trap simply to cover his silence arrow in the case the sorcer wanted to dispell...he is a very good ranger =)

 

Stunning shot would be enough... sorc's remove shock was in cd.

 

we are talking about damage or about video?