Ranger's DPS Still OP

I don't use the first tree with just bestial because that's bad, just like using wintry on a sorc doesnt let you use supp on other tree. Or how sure strike on glad doesn't allow you to use tendon slice on the upper tree. Right now stun shot damage is how it is because it's going off tooltip instead of a randomizer. This does NOT nerf rangers considering the damage can go either up or down.

Saying something stupid like try ranger with upper tree and bestial in real pvp is like telling a sorc to use glacial shard in real pvp.

 

You can also see the other bow he uses full MA.

 

well, that's your point of view about the stigmas' build...but that's not rly the main problem here

we are not arguing about stigmas builds but we are saying our dps was decent on 2.1 (ofc not that high because of the first tree) but still decent enough to pvp...and now? now it's disney land ^^

i insist...do it plz, make a real pvp video using the first tree, even if it's just some 1V1 we don't care...just make it and you find youself how the first tree is bugged.

I don't rly know about the second tree/hybid tree...seems like it was slightly nerfed enough to not warn you...but the first tree arrows have been raped... just try it plzzzz

i rly want to understand it by yourself cuz maybe now, you still are too proud of yourself to admit in front of all ,you are not right...so do it yourself and just pm me

 

I don't really understand the stats what have simca in bow see ''250 - 340 (+59) (+40)'' so you want to tell me we have enchant bug on gamez aion or what? we are getting +25 attak with bow +15 lmao

 

Multiple sets on these guys. MA and crit, att stones are bad attack on rangers. You can see him do lame dmg with no buffs many times too. His build doesnt use lightning arrow also.

 

no, he does great dmg because he has a good gear for retail...but what i wanted to say is, that even if we are almost all good geared (so more def for all) our dps shouldn't be that low compared to retail...ppl wanted a retail proof, i made my own and have seen by myself how we have been ****ed...now everyone can notice it...

 

yeah tritium but check the stats of bow we are getting on gamez just 25 attak with full enchanted weapon XDon retail with bow +10 59 and they still want to be close to ''Retail Like Server'' lmao or it's new retail server called retail''Gamezaion''

 

about buffs: that's normal that a leather use buffs on pvp, a sin/ranger without buffs is almost...nothing...
my point wasn't here. it was about the "full buffs" to say he has high dmg...

and yes he might use almost the same stigma build as ablazed on his video...and what?^^
today i have tried this build...full buff, hitting 1.1k on a sorcer at reshanta (flying=more attack) ...
the problem doesn't come from my stigma build/manastones build...but from the server =)

 

You're syaing the dps is off and i'm saying it's not. Simca doesn't fight all abg or eat players +15. Ofc she's going to do more damage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DcaBpOYttk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL I see her buffed with more than just bestial through out the whole vid and shes doing 1.4k non crits on less than +15 abg or egt players. Until you can find a vid with someone "just" using bestial on +15 eat/egt players then you'll have a better argument. And about 2.1...is this the same 2.1 where sins were hitting less than 500 a hit? If so then I don't see how you can say anything was decent in that.

 

well, they made me laugh when i found they wanted a retail like server with full stigmas on siel ><
but well we have a bigger problem :

@ablazed: well, i wont repeat hundreds of times...just try by yourself, you say sins were nerfed on 2.1...i totally agree with you..;but this came from NCSOFT because sins were op on 1.5 version...and that's why they allowed sins to get 2 buffs on hide + a burst/5lvl rune with the 2.5 update

actually ncsoft haven't even planed to nerf rangers because they "were op on 2.1", so they didn't nerf them at all. the nerf just came from gamez aion...dunno why

and are you scared to do your own tests/video with the first stigma build? i'm just waiting for you to do so and then come back to say what is going on...you words have no sense in my mind if you don't do it and keep blablating about what is retail-like or not, what is normal or not, what is op or not, wich buff we should use or not, what is... lol

 

On my ranger my bow is +15 and it gains the +60 bonus.

 

+15 is awesome... love the upgrades it does and gives.

 

I don't have a bow to try it out actually
Why don't you change builds and post a vid

 

well now is Restart i will post here ss of my bow(later) after and it gives me 25 attak only

 

i think you didn't understand anything on this thread...lol
OK I REPEAT OPEN YOU EYES :andy:

on gamez' 2.1, the dps with the first tree was decent, not high but decent, from 1K to 1.8-9 k
on gamez' 2.5, the dps has been nerfed, so that doesn't come from our build but from the server...because we haven't changed anything...

you have said it was false (more or less) , but you have used a different stigma build and used full buff...and took them as argument
i wanted to make proofs with pure dps. you were still doubting...so i asked you to do what you had to do :sleeping:, i mean , taking the same builds as mine and trying to make the same video as mine...showing your dps...then it would have been fair and usefull...cuz if i found you had a decent dps...i could have said "oh ok i'll try to fix it "...but you didn't...you kept on arguing/blablating without any proofs...and now you want me to take your build to try? lol
do you live on the moon?
my post was about the first stigma build because it's my build...not about your build ^^

and about your build: i have just supposed that you didn't find any difference because you dmg was too high to feel (as we felt with the first tree), a possible nerf...:alien:

did you get it now? is it clear enough? i can't make it more clear

 

You cannot compare 2.1 and 2.5. The damage was completely off in it. Mages were hitting too high sins wern't hitting high enough. What makes you think that rangers were right? 2.5 made the damage forumla correct. Even Evilset was searching and found the right formulas. My prrof was Simca herself. She uses the same buffs as me and guess what? She's hitting the same on players not in EAT +15 or ABG +15. If I were to hit people geared like ehr my damage would no doubt be in the 2 and 3ks. I will not be making a vid of just using bestial fury, because I do NOT have a ranger. If you want to prove me wrong then you post a vid of a ranger using just bestial and fighting a +15 eat geared sorc. My proof was given when I showed Simca doing similar damage as me.

 

What is your ping ablazed?

 

simca's dmg was on "non crit" shot...1.4K on no crit~2.7-8 k on crit
you will say "he was ungeared"...le'ts say you could have put 1.9k-2k on a geared player...you have put 1.4K ...
mathematicaly...or i'm dumb...or you are dumb

but well, i wont keep arguing with you...you have just named me on your post, i have shown how your arguments were wrong...

i don't think any retail ranger would say "it's normal" seeing your OWN dps on this sorcer (full buffed, hitting 1K on a sorcer and keep saying rangers are op) OMG lol

i leave you alone thinking fasle things about a class you can't even understand...cya

ps: my post wasn't to get the last word to prove "i'm right blabla i have a big di*k" but just to show the truth =)

 

On that server it's about 30ish.

 

You saying you proved me wrong and continously bringing up that I'm trying to "win" this argument shows you're an amazing idiot who himself has a "big ego." You saw my vid, you saw Simca's. Crit multiplier on bows isn't 2x. You thinky ou know form experience when you don't. You think you know from the game mechanincs, you don't. I cointune to show you why it is wrong, but you're the one choosing not to listen. If every class could go into pvp with just 1 buff then pvp would be nothing. If you're so unskilled you want to be able to just use bestial because you think it's the harder/smarter tree then you're a fail as it is. Please just leave the thread because all you're doing is catering to the people who can no longer smash their faces across the keyboard.