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Thx for making my class completely unplayable.

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Kaimbe, Jul 7, 2011.

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  1. kolhokolho

    kolhokolho Getting there

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    LOOOL!!The power of Gamez aion forums.Simple QQ thread about chanters turns into a flame thread for how MR should work.
    On Topic:I agree chanters have been nerfet.I am templar and before a chanter could kill me if he kits but now it's nearly imposible.
    (LOL not saying that I am so pro and noone can kill me :D :D :D)
     
  2. Jayrii

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    100% resist IF the player stacked with full MR DOES NOT MOVE..

    it's kinda wierd but I noticed that using my SM dueling with a FULL MR gladi and using my Chanter with FULL MR to a SM and SOrc..
     
  3. Anonymous

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    Hey now, I've yet to flame anyone. And he's the only one saying how it should be on retail :p
     
  4. Elysios

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    It seems that the one can't read it's you.. anyway that was a question based on the results I got testing in-game. Besides you just present your word and nothing more.. the fix was made because the devs checked how bad the MR formula was before.

    Or you think we post in the forums things and they just change formulas without making some tests before? .. =/
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Rainbow Title Forum Legend

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    LOL!
    Yeah, I put my faith in evilset to test anything before implementing his updates. Just look around at all the broken bullshit on the server at the moment. Yep, I can see he tests things thoroughly.
    Results you got from testing in game here? Yes because the way things currently work here, can reflect how they SHOULD work. By that logic everything on this server would work correctly by now.

    And it wouldn't be the first time people QQ'd about something when they had no idea how it was supposed to work, and the dev's changed it.
     
  6. HellMade

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    i just know that every 100mr=10% resist chance, so if player has 2k ma and other one has 2.1k mr its will be 10% chance to resist. anyway wrong thread to discuss about it, im out D:
     
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  7. Elysios

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    Now I see that u can't read.. of course you can achieve 100% resists.. for example is the SM has 1300 MA and the target has 2300 MR you get them. That's pretty logical.

    The thing was that with a diference of 300 MR the resist were from 90 to 100% .. now you see that just didn't make sense before?
     
  8. Anonymous

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    I recall you posting somewhere in that other thread that you had 1500 and your target had 2200 and you were complaining because it resisted 8 out of 10?
    In case you didn't know, if you are RIDICULOUSLY lucky you could resist 10 out of 10 with 2k mr and the person attacking having 1.5k
    It's called a random number generator, it doesn't mean just because you SHOULD resist 50% that you'll always get hit 5 out of 10.
    Again, you kids cried after doing a maybe 10 minute test?
     
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  9. HellMade

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    truth said. :> i must to admit on it D:
     
  10. Anonymous

    Anonymous Rainbow Title Forum Legend

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    Pshwa, I never argue when I'm not confident in my point of view!
    Which I never am unless I'm right.
    Which I always am.
    Huehuehue
     
  11. Elysios

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    Recall it.. and you will see this:

    "I was testing the other day.. and with a Sm with 1400 MA versus a cleric with 1700 MR .. the result was.. 100% resist??????"

    Learn to read some day plz.. you will make us a favor.
     
  12. Anonymous

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    Tsk tsk tsk, again insulting because you can't bring up a valid argument.
    Cry me a river, I misquoted something I read 30 minutes ago.
    That makes me such a bad person right?
    Lawl I'm done arguing with you, when you have a valid point to present let me know. Until then please, get the **** off this thread for it has nothing for you.

    Sidenote: It's not impossible to resist 10 out of 10 1400 ma vs 1700 mr, just requires you to be retardedly lucky.
    Also you're not stating how many times you attempted.
    You could've tried to cast once and got resisted. That would be 100% as well.
    Like I said an hour ago, your testing wasn't extensive, thus you could just be an unlucky bastard.
    Go QQ about stuff being op'd moar.
    /endargumentiwinyoulosegtfo.

    Edit: Since we're quoting from your other thread you said "Correct me if I'm wrong.. but I'm sure that with that difference between MR and MA 100% resists can't be possible. "
    Guess what..its very possible.
     
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    30% chance to resist, thats pretty alot of with that chance to resist u can resist 5 of 10 or sometimes even more or dont resist at all, as Anonymous said its random chance ... and time of test ?
     
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  14. FadetoBlack

    FadetoBlack Veni, vidi, vici, reliqui

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    looks like someone needs to take a stats class and then argue with my little anon lol... gg dude
     
  15. Anonymous

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    Know whats sad?
    I failed algebra in highschool.
    But even I can grasp this concept.
    SO SADDDDDDD
     
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    Of course.. that's 30% of resist chance.. in that test I fought the cleric 3 times and landed only one spell in total during the 3 fights.. only with 30% of resist possibility? .. of course it was a bad formula.

    Hellmade know how it works. every 100 MR over the oponnent.. 10% more chances of resist attacks. I've always said that this is about chances and % of resists.. random chances but it's was clear that the formula was way to OP in favor of MR.
     
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    Sir, if you knew 100 mr = 10% resist before reading us saying it 20 times in this thread, why did you post in another thread this:
    "Correct me if I'm wrong.. but I'm sure that with that difference between MR and MA 100% resists can't be possible. "
    I'm confused, you're knowledgeable as to how things work, but you didn't know that was possible?
    GG discredit yourself more.
     
  18. FadetoBlack

    FadetoBlack Veni, vidi, vici, reliqui

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    You don't have to be so mean nowwww anon, you have shattered his credibility... enough I say D:
     
  19. Elysios

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    You are just helpless.. it says clearly "with that difference" .. talking about getting 100% resists only with a difference of 300 MR over the Ma of the player. You need to sleep now.. your brain is asking for a little rest.
     
  20. asmo442

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    They should cap MR to 30% like everything else. Its not like they can balance anything without the proper formula. I know for a fact that some skills have -% to land and +% to land in retail. No way we can know what the % is for each skill, but the best example I can give is the SM instant cast slow skill, the one mage dont have, on retail it always lands, no matter what, but fear can miss on the same guy 100 times in a row. I"m sure that is the same for other skills. Noticed it for mage root, too, it never missed, but inferno would.

    So with the devs GUESSING at formula they will never get it right. To much unknown.
     
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