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Gladiator: taking down clerics

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Razorain, Jul 5, 2011.

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  1. Duffman

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    hahah yes its funny
     
  2. Razorain

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    Aww be nice now... I love the templar but, the problem is everyone is complaining they have too many and I am having a hard time finding a nice legion.I am a diehard templar player no worries there I just want to fit in socially with good people and players. Maybe, if people were'nt so stuck up I would love to play a templar again.
     
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    cleric is one of the easiest classes to kill as a glad....

    sure they have a short CD root, but you also have second wind which a) removes all movement impairing debuffs including cleric root whilst also increasing your resistance to it. b) charge, time your charge at the end of a root to get into that clerics face asap.

    clerics have only like 4 shields and only 1 of them is annoying.
    1 activates via remove shock which is the 8k damage shield, 1 is a 900 damage shield, another is on a 10min CD that lasts for 10 seconds and blocks 10k of physical damage ONLY, and lastly there's one via a group heal which shields for about 1.4k.
    all the shields listed apart from impervious veil & the 10min CD skill, can easily be burned with 1 or 2 cleaves. but for the big shields you can easily just kite as well. remember, they cant cast anything when they have that shield on them.

    the idea is to force the cleric to use his remove shock > impervious viel chain. now you've got 30 seconds to either do 8k damage or kite the cleric away. dont be dumb and try to stand there while their energy hits you.

    once the cleric has used that shield, it's a piece of cake.
    you can easily wrathful chain >KD, SPC > KD, crushing blow > KD, aerial snare > piercing rupture > smash. that chain will damn near 100-0 any cloth/leather/chain wearer.

    of course each fight is situational, but just be observant of which buffs they have on. a cleric has only 1 move to catch you being root so a cleric can easily be kited to burn their big cooldowns then come back in and finish them.

    and if all else fails, get an MR set.
     
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    use alway knockdown to stop his using buffs
     
  5. Anonymous

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    You'll never get a skilled cleric.
    Also the 2k shield isn't only a shield, when its up all your heals heal for 200% so a smart cleric would only use it if they're almost dead, pop it, then flash recovery = full hp
     
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    cleric now is so strong...
     
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    No skilled cleric is gonna use the shields in a duel... If u rly want to kill a cleric, go MR or (!) Macc-Build lolololol, there's no other way if the cleric knows how to play. xD
     
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    you cant flash heal if you spend 100-0 on your ass. and as i mentioned, the idea is to force the cleric to waste them.

    cleave + force cleave is 2~4k damage.
    KD> draining blow + crippling cut + springing slice is already 3~6k damage. and that's just the first knockdown.
    aerial snare + final strike + crash is again, 3~6k damage.
    piercing rupture alone does 2~4k damage and thats 10m AOE.

    i know a skilled cleric wont lose to your average glad, but a skilled glad will never lose to a cleric, a skilled one at that.


    p.s. in the air its a completely different ball game, but i'm talking on ground glads have the advantage.
     
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    Are you insane? Flash heal has a 30 second cool down, blessed shield has a two minute cool down. 1 insta heal every 2 minutes. 1 1/4th your health heal every 30 seconds. Assuming this isn't a duel with rules, I generally have three separate pots with me at all times. If I happen to get k/d by a glad I'm gonna RS it, kite his ass and heal it. There's no way a GOOD cleric is gonna get k/d locked, at all, ever.
    It just doesn't happen sir. :|
     
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    bump this tread.
     
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    I liek clerics.... =( damn MR nerf Dx!
     
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    im not talking about duels... ?


    the only instant heal you have, is flash not including the HoT skill. 30 second cooldown.

    your root lasts 6s, 10s CD. meaning in between flash heals, you can fit 2~3 roots in.

    root 1 can be broken by strengthen wing.
    root 2 can be healing potted.
    root 3 can be countered by using charge to catch up fast.


    now while you're waiting for your cooldown;

    berserking duration: 30 seconds.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    i don't know about your average gamez aion glad, but it's just based on my experience.

    clerics gear like this here;
    - block spec/parry spec: these types of clerics do no real damage whatsoever and i've got 3k accuracy so their block/parry is invalid.
    - MR spec: these types again do no real damage and glads are physical so the only thing a cleric will resist is our ankle snare, which any glad with half a brain would know not to use since can be easily dispelled.
    - MB spec: yes these guys can hurt. get an MR set. :)
    - MA spec: because cleric weapons and passives dont work like a sorc/SM, if they get enough MA to hit passed MR sets, they'll once again do no real damage.
    - HP spec: annoying to kill, comes down to timing of skills. But yet again, no threat damage wise.

    oh and hey since it's gamez, don't forget 10% silence. :)
     
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    LOL a non mb spec'd cleric does no real damage?
    <.<
    I've never made a block/hp set for a glad, only used MB and MR against them. Your tactic still fails babe, charge me all you want, I'll RS your knock down, depending on my HP either kite you away real quick or 8k shield and pot. Silence is pointless I'll pot that too.
    :|
     
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    Clerics deal good damge in my opinion... >.<

    And Anony and I are godly clerics =o :3 /hugs anon
     
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    I seriously wonder if all the clerics are crap on this server.
    /dowishihadgear-glaresataegis-
     
  16. Aegis

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    -Aegis stares at the wild Anony-

    If we grouped together in full ABG though... the server may crack in half and implode =O!

    Good cleric + good cleric = omfg /your wrists nao *****ezzzz Dx

    Aegis + Anony... double A quality! AA =3 (bad joke... I know)

    -Gives Anony a hug with all of my barreh. Including da poo poo in my butt-
     
  17. Jessica

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    I always forget to pot silence so I get killed at zergs, well there was 10+ of em yesterday. Sometimes I just panic out and run instead of remembering I still have options. Should note this down and copycat ur think-tactics Anon :)
     
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    you make it like I'm personally targeting you or something lol. don't get so upset.

    I'm purely stating facts based on my own pvp experience.

    and you mention you can pot silence... you think it's hard for a glad with a 4 strike weapon to proc again? you gonna pot again? oh wait, it's on cooldown from the first time you potted :) and i'm not even mentioning how much a glad can hinder your ability to kite especially with cleave chain on such a short cooldown.

    a glad on the other hand who uses greater healing pot will not only remove root and/or blind, it'll also knock off the DoT(s).

    so again, no real damage.


    and you're dreaming if you think a skilled glad will give you enough time to get call lightning off.

    throw all of this in with passive knockdown crit....


    ~~~~~~

    now since you want to talk about your cleric, you say you're specced with either MB or MR right?
    that means that most if not all your skills will be resisted in my MR set and you've got no survivability against my physical damage in that spec.
    so again i say, no real damage.

    oh and don't rely on your nobles either, i resist them too.

    ~~~~~~

    all in all, a skilled glad vs skilled cleric would be an interesting fight, but will always generally be more in favour of the glad winning.
     
  19. Aegis

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    Thus why insane clerics like I and anony have multiple sets o.o;
     
  20. Jessica

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    We have Prayer of Focus to increase concentration: Then use Sages Wisdom for casting speed + cast spd scroll = then Call of that freaking lightning then boom.

    I do want sets

    > WTT > EAT leather to chain or cloth pl0x! stock it with MA and yey.
     
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