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I'm thinking buying a new PC.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Raptorz, Aug 14, 2011.

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  1. SweetNoms

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    This is the most misguided comment I've ever seen. AMD is my preference and I would never touch an Intel for my personal workstation. In most cases, you get more or equal juice and performance for less money, ESPECIALLY in the dual core category where AMD blows Intel out of the window (CNET did a contest, as well as PCWorld and a few others, each time AMD was the clear winner.) Even if Intel scores higher on 3DMark or other benchmarks, it is NOT a measure of real world application; It's kind of like a certification in the real world. When I got my CCNA I was supposed to be capable of doing a lot of things with Cisco equipment, and had done it many times in a lab environment, but the first time I had to set up link aggregation and a VTP server, all the while altering the election process (same crap I had done in the lab) I was a little lost. Now, computers don't "think" the same way since they can't use logic (well, it's simulated digital logic, not human logic because....you know.....they aren't human -_-) but you should get the idea. It was a bad metaphor, but stands to make a point.

    ANYWAY, you should definitely do some research on compatibility and put together your own PC from Newegg or TigerDirect. My specs are as follows:

    AMD Phenom II x4 940 (quad core, stock speed)
    6gigs DDR2 800 (stock speed)
    Corsair 850w
    EVGA GTX 260 (stock speed)
    1TB 7200 RPM Western Digital HD
    NZXT Tempest case
    A pretty good Gigabyte mobo

    and I built that for myself 4 years ago for about $600. That's FOUR years ago, and it spanks Aion, solid 60 on all max. You could build that now for half as much, but some of the parts are considered antiquated. Even so, there still isn't a game I can't run on maximum without pulling 40-50 fps, at the least. The way to go is building it yourself, for sure. I would never buy a PC from a store or online when I could build it myself for hundreds less.

    I also want to say that Intel, in the quad core and server category, beats AMD, especially server class. Man those server Xeons use a different computation algorithm for everything and they ZOOM. Anyway, good luck with the build.
     
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  2. Raptorz

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    Hey all :3

    Here's the specs of my NEW pc ( my dad has that computer xD ):

    • CPU - Intel Pentium E5300 @ 2.60GHz Wolfdale 45nm Tecnologia
    • RAM - 2,00 GB Single -Channel DDR2 @ 333MHz
    • MoBo - ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5KPL-AM IN/ROEM/SI (Socket 775)
    • GFX Card - X193HQ (1366x768@60Hz) Intel(R) G33/G31 Express Chipset Family ( Ye I know it's Intel , but i have a PCI Express x16 slot. So I will put a new one! :3 )
    • HDD - 156GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721616PLAT80 ATA Device (PATA)
    So , I think is much better than my old pc ;33
    And I have a PCI Express slot , someone can Link me with a cheap but good GFX Card that run Aion without laggs?

    Thanks in Advance! :p
     
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    Bump to my friend!!!!
     
  4. Raptorz

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    Little Question:

    NVIDIA GEFORCE 9400GT GFX CARD PCI-e 512MB DDR-2, DVI | eBayhis GFX Card can run Aion w/o laggs?

    I have a PCI-E Slot now :3
     
  5. SweetNoms

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    I'm glad to hear about your new PC. As far as the card goes, we would need to know the power rating of your PSU. A lot of the cards from recent years require two 6-pin connectors and a minimum of 450w. The more power hungry ones need around 650w, minimum. Make sure you invest well in a good PSU, that is something you definitely dont want to skimp on. Congratulations again.
     
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    Have you tried intel before? No? Ok.
     
  7. Raptorz

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    yup , I'm glad too :>

    The PC is very fast and m8 , take a look in my previous post with the GFX Card...

    Can the that GFX Card run Aion perfectly?
     
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    Do I spend everyday not only working on and with both machines for work, but also running diagnostics and real world performance tests for school? Do I have an unbiased outlook, regardless of what's popular, based upon data compiled by myself, peers, and professors? Have I delved deeper into th science, looking at actual algorithms and computations? Have I used and tested things other than workstation grade processors of both kinds? Now, are you an angry Intel fanboy with nothing to go on than what other people tell you to think and your kiddie perspective of nothing other than slight movie editing and playing your video games? The answer to all of these are yes, btw.

    Anyway, that onboard won't run Aion. PSU is a power supply. What's your rating?
     
  9. Dranzell

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    Do I have to answer them in one word?
    My answer is:

    No.
    I have TRIED an intel 2.8 dual and my AMD 3.0 dual, could run GTA IV smoother on the Intel, as well as Metro 20whateverhowmuch and Aion. If I was an Intel fanboy, I wouldn't be using AMD in first place.

    And as you can see, the guy wants it for video games. Which is... exactly, my kiddie perspective to video games works if the guy wants the PC for... video games.
     
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    Yes but on default engine and low settings. A 9400GT will be just fine.

    Do bare in mind that it is an entry level GPU in 2008. So dont expect too much out of it.

    EDIT:
    2008: 9000 Series
    2009 : 200 Series
    2010: 400 Series
    2011: 500 Series
     
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    Firstly, it was a rhetorical question as I had already answered them. Secondly, and not trying to be mean, you either weren't testing on identical machines or you don't know what your talking about, and honestly I'm not sure which to opt for here. There is always the chance that you had some kind of program running that in turn made the game run slower, but I think even you could spot that. I'm guessing the machines weren't completely identical concerning the hardware. Especially with two families so close together, the difference on similar machines is minuscule.

    As far as the the choice of your processor use, maybe you couldn't afford an Intel at the time, possibly out of stock, perhaps someone gave you the processor or it was carried over from a previous build and upgrade of a processor couldn't be justified, who knows. Doesn't change thame possibility that you could still be a fanboy.
     
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    No, I could afford it, but at that time I didn't know about the difference. And I'm not that stupid, both CPUs were after a fresh restart, same processes, same games. I'm not that sucky. Now I can't afford an Intel xD
     
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    I didnt take the time to read the whole thread, but:

    Whatever choice you take for your machine, try that the speeds of the Memory and mototherboard to be similar... so there are no bottlenecks in the information movements. By all means try that the memory be a DDR3, over the 2GB and the graphic card an NVIDIA or a ATI (second choice) the intel video cards are garbage... Also its important if you want that your machine runs games more smoothly that the video card is not embedded in the motherboard.. because then they will share the memory and it ll be a mess.

    Of course this are my advices based on my own experience with computers.
     
  14. iDeidara

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    Build your own computer.

    Gamers need to have the fastest and best components available in the likes of middle to top tier motherboards, processors, video cards, power supplies, hard drives and memory.

    Using the cheap components available online will enable you to build a very good PC.

    The final product is dependent on your budget and your creativity.

    Chip makers Intel and AMD have put out blazingly fast multicore processors with AMD first with the introduction of Hexacore CPUs (6 cores). Can you imagine paring one of these CPUs with the 'new kid on the block' solid state drives (SSD)?

    Getting cheap parts to build your own PC does not mean that they are of low quality. You will be able to get high quality brand new computer parts at very low prices online.

    Some PC parts are the same as those purchased at a 'brick and mortar' store, the only difference is that they are cheaper and easily accessible.

    It all depends on what you want to do.
     
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