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Are mages using Break Power? O.O

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Bittersweet, Sep 1, 2011.

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  1. thegrimreaper

    thegrimreaper New Member

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    this is going to be a never ending cycle, you mess with one class, another class becomes OP, then another one snd so on
     
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    yah, the ultimate infinite loop, LOL
     
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    BP is not OP, and it's not random damage.
     
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    U play op class hur hur hur hur dur dur dur.
     
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    Like ppl said at before theres million threads about this, yeah skills has a low cooldown, but templar needs an stumble conditition to do the skill, shieldburst(1min cd), stun+provoking(sometimes fails), greatswords crit stumble. At Zerg i will understand it, but when ur 2v2 or 1v1, its little bit harder to stumble someone; if they really know what they doing. I could also, ask, why 4 sorcs, using light/shadowburst on me? single target... altho resisted 3 of them, just asking... :innocent:
     
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    And i Hear-by Declare this thread a stalemate ...
     
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    Stalemate it may be now, but it was always a farce o.o
     
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    Liez all liez ..!! !! !!













    tbh .... idk ... what say ... you win :<
     
  9. Dranzell

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    Shieldburst is 30s cooldown, but any decent player knows how to get away from the range in the cast time. Also, Shield Bash isn't working -> Provoking works only with Divine Justice, which has a cast time as well.
     
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    That's enough to kill a bear rofl.
     
  11. akylia

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    Shieldburst 14m xD

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    Anyway, the damage from BP is heavily dependant on buffs.

    So it's not "7k dmg on 16 seconds cooldown", but rather "7k damage on 1:30 min. - 3 min. cooldown" because of Empyrean Fury + Divine Fury.

    It's quite fun to hit 7.3k Break Power + 4.2k Punishment (random dmg) fully buffed with greatswords.

    However, templars on Lumiel are everything but OP. They are still a melee class, they are heavily cooldown dependant and Break Power is the only good burst skill they have (Punishment is decent, but you have to sacrifice other important stigmas for it). In my Lumiel Tier List I even gave them the worst rating being Tier 4 for group pvp because actually they suck in standard groups, but the normal casual gamer who only says "OH MY GAWD 7K DAMAGE THIS IS SO OP" wouldn't understand it.

    I found it funny how people don't know how to play against templars and complain about them. See my sig, Sun Tzu is the don.

    Only real OP class in 1v1 (nobody cares about 1v1 -.-) atm is (1) SM, followed by (2) Sorc. 'nuff said. Anyway I don't get why so many people are so obsessed with 1v1 balance, the game has never been balanced for 1v1. And then they even complain about the wrong classes being OP. If Aion had been balanced for 1v1, Spiritmasters and Sorcs wouldn't exist. It's a group game, get over it.

    No, I'm not a Templar. I quit this class long time ago, I barely play it.
     
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    eh, sorry but r u really a templar?
    shield counter and punishment of light can active stumble of PSC as well. and block chain skills also do stumble.
    and shieldburst cast range is not melee here. it's about 5 - 7m. doom lure (3s para) > shieldburst is inescapable unless u have some sort of shield buff on.
    templar is not my main but i have a full ABG templar as well. and with my noob skill, i still can pwn alot of other noobs and even decent players.
    its ridiculous that BP > sure strike
     
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    On gamez don't work. And Gladis suck. Also, if you shieldburst from 7-10-15m away, before you get there to BP the stumble will either go, or he'll activate Remove Shock. (Also, 3s para doesn't work here either, it'll be out of range)
     
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    Whoever takes the whole tree up to Sure Strike is just [insert-random-noob-comment].

    Seriously, who would be so dumb to take this useless stigma? >.>
    It has such a long animation time, not to mention the long cast time. You normally go up to SPC / TS (if you're getting a build for groups) and stop there. Oh and don't come to me with full stigma server, it has no balance in any case...
     
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    The skill can only be used on a specific state where opponent is stumble.

    (ABG CLOTH's def) - (-def debuff from a glad and other temp since you got zerged) = you got low def
    then you're telling us about how OP when temp BP'ed you with 7k+ crit and 4k non-crit for a cloth user?
     
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    r u nuts? who talk about stigma build here?
    it was dmg comparison between BP and Sure Strike. got it? No?
    oh well. in case u r really nuts, just [insert-random-noob-comment] for urself.
    cheer :D
     
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    Why would you compare the dmg of 2 totally different skills?

    Sure Strike doesn't need the target to be stumbled, Break Power does.
    Skills that require the target to be in a certain condition are generally stronger.

    (other examples: Aether Flame, Weaken Spirit, Final Strike, etc.)
     
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    nahhhhhh i always see a "thread full of complains" nowadays, maybe we should just enjoy the game since most characters has an Imba skill here in gamez and that what makes our server different. I hate seeing QQs everywhere >.<
     
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    no matter what condition it is. sure strike is supposed to be the strongest physical skill in AION. just like glacial is the strongest magical skill (excluding DP skill)
    even if (it's only if ) BP is supposed to be stronger, it has lower tooltip dmg, and yet it deals 1800 - 2000 more dmg on the dummy. (also about the same amount if it's crit on player). is that normal?
     
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    You sir, make me laugh. Your stupidity does it all. What can't you understand from the next sentence: THIS IS HOW BREAKPOWER WORKS IN RETAIL!
     
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