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Are mages using Break Power? O.O

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  1. Hersonissos

    Hersonissos New Member

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    Its not just 'some damage' though. Exlcluding sorc 4k dp skills, its probably the hardest hitting skill in the gamez. That video is ridiculous, 10.7k damage.

    Its supposed to be a powerful skill yeah, but not that powerful. 25-30% ish reduction would sound right, after seeing aionsource threads.
     
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    Your test End this discussion , Thank you ..
     
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    Good luck... lol.
     
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    25% damage reduction is still 8k damage. Using the chain templars use for BP, by the time they get to use it, you'll already be down to below 25% hp. Meaning, if BP lands crit, they WILL kill you.
    Game mechanics are flawed. But then again, there's no such thing as a 'perfect' game. They all have their problems. Aion having more problems than others. But I guess since it's a pvpve mmo, it's prone to more issues than mmo's with arena based pvp.
    Moral to the story?
    Want balanced pvp?
    You're not going to find it. Especially in a game ruled by zergs.
    ;0 HF hunting.
     
  5. Avoidme

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    Just go ahead and ask for temps to be removed from the game
    Temps have a hard enough time trying to cast BP
    1. There's only 2 knock down skills
    2. 1 out of the 2 knock down skills never procs
    3. The one skill that assures a knockdown easily gets interrupted or fails sometimes
    4. Other way for a temp to knock down more would be by going full crit using a greatsword
    which no one will do due to the fact that Strike Resist works now and a templar using 2h is
    closely as squishy as a silenced sorcerer.

    So yeah just go ahead and ask for templars to be completely removed from the game
    Maybe then some people will be happy lol
     
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  6. Anninka

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    u forgort high block rate
    highest deff ing
    highest hp ing
    3 hp healling skills
    high mr + mr buff
    MANY deff buffs
    also blocking buffs
    and if u realy gonna die u can always use charge to run

    so yeah they will make templar a dead class if they fix it... i agree with u
     
  7. Avoidme

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    Why wouldn't other runs from Break Power = super low range + cast skill
     
  8. Anninka

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    maybe because they are stunned?
     
  9. Avoidme

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    They should just remove templars from the game
    maybe then everyone will be happy lol
     
  10. Anninka

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    amazing the way u just ignore the fact the skill is bugged
    and the fact that a templar should NEVER get a kill from a gladiator or other classes

    templar should kill? yes ! when they are on solo
    if ure going in retail as a templar + another class in your group ull probably make few kills numbers
     
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    The problem is not the skill itself, the skill is also strong in retail where rare temps have full abg and such
    While in gamez anyone is able to get full abg, so when a 2 abg ring + masta gs temp in retail does 3-4k
    how much would a full abg temp do in gamez...?
     
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    Off-topic: i found one sin with some buged stats today, was killing templars without atack buffs looked like your name bro.

    About the templar not getting kills over glads and others classes...someone got the worst idea about templars ^^.
     
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    yep it was me.. assassin have a random bug on atk we canot control it
    already reported the bug if i post it again the staff will say ''mimimi knowing bug'' so what can i do?

    and i was killing rangers w/o buffs not templars ^^
     
  14. Anninka

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    masta gs? no one have it yet
    probably a crafted gs + egt hit 4k aganist a non pvp deffence set
    abg does not double your atk so here it should hit max 4.8k or even less than retail
    thats the case from assassin that hit less here than in retail and rangers too
     
  15. HoGunner

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    How much atack u got :D?
     
  16. Avoidme

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    mine jumps from 700-1300 on sin
    its some crazy bug
     
  17. Karemiwen

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    Break Power was working correctly after it was fixed a couple months ago. I belive what we are seeing here is bugged attack stats on characters, as Avoidme said. On a side note, remember that retail aion in NA/EU has a 50% pvp damage (IIRC) reduction. The Korean servers do not have this reduction. I don't think Gamez had it either at one time, but after a big update (2.1 maybe) people were QQing about gladiator damage, and Carl put it some sort of a PVP damage reduction.

    [​IMG] [Update] 6/5/2011

    Code:

    - fix unable to trade soulbound items- fix magic boost cap- disabled soul sickness since no one likes it- lowered pvp damage- disabled Abyss Entry Quest requirement- Reworked Quest 3939, Quest 1098, 1561, 20020, 20021, 20022, 20026- geo for npc movements (no fly)- fix excessive CPU usage in geo- fix Deadly Abandon I- Reworked StardCondition class for quest- fix BOOST_CASTING_TIME of all tilte


    The point is we don't know what the PVP damage reduction is here. So it's it kind of an apples to oranges comparison when looking at Break Power damage at Gamez versus NA/EU retail.

    just my 2 cents​
     
  18. TrueSeph

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    Not saying it isn't possible, read my statement more clearly. I said that it's a rare number to achieve. You're acting like every Templar is running around landing 8k+ crit damage like it was yellow fever.

    Let me address something to you very clearly. P.Def is almost useless in retail, so having Anuhart gear to lvl 40 gear is not going to change your damage mechanics by a lot, and the only differences is the bonuses you'll receive, the p.def is miniscule in this matter.

    You're video although showing that extremely high damaging Break Power (either bugged or some fluke of wonder, I've never ever seen 10k+ damage even before the nerfing of BreakPower within Gamez), let me emphasize a few differences here so that you can start to realize why your video doesn't refute what I'm saying. You're still comparing +10 Lannok/Trioran Player who's not even fully pvp built doing 5.2k damage in PvE. Then comparing that damage to which I'm sure is a full blown ABG using Templar at +15 GS and when fully buffed has over 900+ Atk Damage in comparison. That is a significant difference here.

    The other additional factor within Gamez, is that the PvP Damage is actually higher then the PvP damage in Retail (Yes it was nerfed but I'm sure it's not a 50% PvP reduction like what we see in retail). Take all of this into consideration, and then come to a better conclusion here. If Retail has a 50% PvP Damage reduction already included and they are doing nearly 5k damage with a +10 Lannok GS on a PvP geared player, not PvE, but PvP.

    Then why isn't it possible to not be doing more damage here on Gamez with the same skill but will far less PvP damage reduction, and with the max and best equipments the game has to offer? It starts to make more sense to me.

    You don't see people in retail being capable of landing 20K+ with Lightburst/Shadowburst either, however when you put the numbers together and the additional x-factor that Gamez Sorcs are significantly more well equipped then the average great Sorcs in retail it makes sense why its possible.

    The other portion is that seems to fly off of everyone's tongues is that landing Break Power is not easy. Many of our stuns is MA based (PSC on a successful block I believe is the only one that isn't ma based?? Am I correct? Can't remember) so it makes it difficult to land.

    So I completely disagree with you. Break Power is supposed to be a Powerful Skill, but it's not Overpowered as in super abusable, makes the Templar class unstoppable yadi yada. SM's and Sorcs are still the most overpowered class with the most powerful skills overall within the entire game.
     
  19. Anninka

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    normal atk is 790 to me i was with 880
    and i have killed only 1 templar ^^ the sorc was killing all of them
     
  20. Anninka

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    who told u that pdeff do not change much? check a gladiator video and a sorcerer video and u will see the damage they recive
    also a anuhart set does not have pvp deff and yes it make much difference
     
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