GM, Pls help

Eh? Multi-accounting is a different issue altogether. I'm fully aware that people do that. But the people that do sell the creds for close to normal price.

I'm not sending PMs and these items are the result of duping, not multiaccounting, just based on the evidence that I see.

 

I have to agree they're most likely duped... Also here's some facts...

Lv140 stones = 1000 pts
5 votes = 50 pts

To even purchase that amount you'd need to vote on the minute every 12 hour, beside that you'd still have to vote for over a week to even be able to afford 10 stones... Now ontop of that even with multiple accounts you wouldn't be able to get that amount of stones in such short time... Now if you ask me you'd have to be out of your mind and have no life to even have the time that it takes to do just what I explained...

Besides, I'm going to assume that his character is his main there for I still find it highly unlikely that he got them by legal means cause after all... Most people even noobs would most likely be able to hit 55 in a couple of days, even if they got work.

So yeah I agree with Autumn the stones are most likely duped...

 

Yes only 50 votes every 12 hours, but with 13 acconts LOL...Mean 100 credit/day, mean 1000 credits/ 10 days x 13 = 13000 credits = 130 Lv 145 stones...
(10 stones are 1000 credits),this is only with 1000 credits per account..do it for 4000 credits per account, thats mean 520 enchant stones in 40 days....and if more than 1 people have 10x accounts? that mean a broker full of that stones...and you keep say that are all duped?
I think that ppl before speak need SOLID PROOFS and not base their proofs on "that guy selling too much HES A DUPER"..lol seriously..bring proof, AND I AM THE FIRST that support you,your friends and give my pubblic excuses to you.

 

You do make a valid point, also personally I said they're most likely duped based on the facts. But you bring forth new facts which makes another question arise... Who the hell would even have time n patience to actually make 13 accounts n use 13 proxies? <.<

I just find it a bit too much of an annoyance to actually be worth it since people have been warned about dupes there for people will pay more attention and stay clear for those who sell large quantities of certain items. Such as Lv 140 stones and Gold Medals for example.

 

The fact that you dont have patience dont mean that all players dont have patience, or not?

Sure right,now no one buy,but why? because ppl start accusing ppl of dupe without solid proof, and now people dont buy nothing anyomore...simply economy is messed up now...
Im not saying that dupe not exist,just that no all people dupe...people just need stop buy gold medals because the fact are in table : most of gold medals are dupped because there is no way to get the except with events..

But you guys cant say the same for enchants stones and godstones or other things that can be get easy.
Multiaccount votes its not a new thing,people vote to get rich..they powerselling even credits and when they get all that heart can dream,maybe they can lower the price too..
Lets accuse then every seller in the server lol...
I repeat again, im ready to support you guys,to support all you want, IF YOU bring SOLID EVIDENCE of dupes..dont make all people criminals,because some people arent.

 

Using 13 accounts to collect votes is still against the rules. Arguing that the crime is different still results in the simple fact that these stones, are without a doubt illigitimately obtained and the source needs to be banned.

I will not retract my accusations that they are duped, as they have not been proven not to be. While multi-accounting is a possible source of these stones, it is extremely unlikely. If I were farming credits to trade for worthless kinah, I would buy the lv100 stones, as you get 15 for the same price, and they have the same 95% enchant rate.

 

" I will not retract my accusations that they are duped, as they have not been proven not to be. "
And how you prove they are duped?
You love accuse without proof,thats all i've seen...and this is sad.
Have 13 account to collect is against the rule (or not? i dont know),but stones comed out from those 13 account are 100% Legit and people can sell at broker.
I just see too much ppl that want be better than other player / dont follow rules / hack / because they have donated money...and they want stop all to not allow ppl grow and become stronger ( http://forum.gameznetwork.com/showthread.php?t=10885 one of them)
I just stop with this argument,you guys can keep say that all are duped and do what you want.

 

Stones that come out of that are not duped, but they are far from legit, since they shouldn't exist at all. And I ask again, why would you buy lv145 stones rather than lv100 which would get you more kinah? Because they weren't bought. Because they are duped. Basic logical processes prove that they are duped rather than from the result of multiple accounts.

And again, it doesn't matter. Multi-account vote farming is in fact illegal. Both sources have the same result. An account ban, or lots of them in the multiple account case. Telling me that I am wrong, and pointing at another illegal action as the source serves no purpose, since the violation and punishment are essentially the same, and only the people who can view whatever sorts of logs there are here can find out which of the two is correct.

 

And we got ourselfs a winner, Congratulations to Mr(s).Autumn who's brought up a point that no one can disagree with. XD

 

roflmao...you point fail hard...
Multiaccount = Illegal NOT
Multiaccount = Duped
GMs can ban, destroy multiaccount pc, kill user ,but the fact is that STONES ARE NOT duped...
So epic fail on all what you said.
And LV 100 dont worth same of lv 145 ROFLMAO...if someone sell them for less hes just stupid...stupidity is still stupidity with duped items / illegal or totally legit..
so Epic fail rofl.

 

Eh? Anyone understood that? All I got was that he didn't understand the point that "Duped or not it's still not allowed by the rules to have multiple accounts to vote with."

 

10 char limitation in quoted posts? Seriously?

 

No sorry...he just saying that is the same thing.
If you buy stones from a guy that have get them trough multiaccount, they dont disappearthey can be used and they ARE 100% LEGIT.
Guys im tired,if you dont understand keep your crusade and be proud of it....i think you guys are lucky that Gms dont punish ppl for random accuse ppl.

 

If they did you'd be punished aswell since you randomly accused him of purposely having multiple accounts for the purpose of voting and selling. ^^

Also sure they're legit but the guy who sold them still did it against the rules... Even if they're not duped. ^^

 

Multiaccount is illegal, can be punished....and ok,we all know about it.
Stones that come OUT FROM multiaccount guys ARE 100% LEGIT...they dont disappear,they can be used without problem.
If someone buy some of them, dont change nothing on game.
As i said, stupid ppl are just stupid,you cant prove they are duped just because are stupid.
Seriously,you need : Connect brain to hands,get more proofs to you sentences because you saying a lot of no sense things..
Who care about % of sucess?why you bring discussion out of point?We are speaking about how to get lv 145 and if they are duped or not, NOT how much % they have...lol really...If you want buy lv 100 instead lv 145, good for you,there are people that prefer them.
(BTW i read about people that fail with lv 100 instead with lv 145 not, so maybe they have more %..i dont know about it, maybe its just a marketing thing or just a illusion)
Btw there is a big real fact,you still havent bring solid proofs,just suppositions.

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Who i have accused? quote please where i wrote it.

 

There truly is no convincing people on the internet, even if you spoon-feed them facts. I'm right. You're wrong. That's what it boils down to. At this stage, the thread smells of you just trying to troll.

 

Dude,i stop post if that make you happy or if that make all happy.
You guys just dont have proofs,trying to climb mirrors and randomly making discussions.
Gms choose what to do with all those stones / guys or with server.
I just have ask proofs, because i dont like ppl that accuse or report without have proofs..server work with proofs,real life too....
I wish you a good day, and i hope you have learn something on all this tread.

 

Just 1 question guys are you done Flamming on redevil and each other.
This guy already got 1 probleem and to make it worse it was possible he just got some duped ones.
And just 1 question to you all how do you feel when you buy items to resale and you got same probleem as he and the items turned out to be duped. And you get accused of dupping items.
To be onest i done a lot of mmorpg and i always look for real cheap items to resale to make some money. Because this way i became 1 of the richest persoons in some mmorpg.

 

Hitkill,im not doing this because i like flame or other..im sorry if i have create problems,really..i just dont understand why ppl accuse all ppl for duping..we know that they are duped items, you know it, all ppl know it, other gms too....but what i think is that persons need proofs before write...there are still honest people in this server and maybe they get those stone honestly..
Hitkill, you think its too much ask for proofs?
Just need this answer then i stop,dont write more.

 

To be honest i believe that he is a onest persoon that is why i try to help him. If i suspected him of doing it self i would just ignoing this thread and look some where else.