DMG HACK ON BP(possibly)

You want me to take your side because he called you retard? Someone who contradicts himself? You said it will always deal SAME damage and now it is random with 20-30 damage difference? Bottom line = Random!

Immaturity, too scratched to be used online to bash someone, really. I couldn't care less who is immature or not, I do not see the difference between the 2 of you. Both of you can not support your statements strongly so why should I bother analyzing who is immature and not.

What I believe is the real thing comes in PvP not from mobs not from dummies. Since Evilset or anybody else will not change/nerf a skill because it deals RANDOM or not damage to a dummy, he will take into consideration the PvP defense of the target, Physical defense, etc. for his Break Power damage formula.

PS: When he tried to change some damage formula/Stumble rate he asked for a duel video from retail and Gamez. Meaning, hitting a dummy is not really helpful to prove a point and tell Evilset this is wrong or not. Got my point?

 

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LOL 25 attack can give you additional 500 damage? Seriously you are noob. I highly doubt that the breakpower dmg effect remained til i hit my next BP,but even if it did remain it would surely not increase my dmg by 500.</p>
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I gave you the proof and you told me more excuses,i think i have nothing else to say. Nevermind the dummy,go try some pvping,you ll see.</p>

 

How am I contradicting myself? I already said BP does random damage within 25-50 points Cazar says it does between 4500-8000 damage

And there you go again insulting me calling me a noob. I'm glad you people over at Siel are really nice, can't wait for transfers.

 

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Report what you believe is bugged here (It says if u aren't sure about it post only , so post!)
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BP's High-End crit is not supposed to be consistent but random depending upon on the crit. The regular powerful damage of BP is what is consistent. Your screenshot is on the "dummy" however notice that, that damage is supposed to be the consistent damage of BP. On mobs not Players, I myself can almost consistently do 4.5-5k+ damage, but when I land a high-end crit it can be as high as 6-10k damage potentially. Notice how my BP damage ratio fluctuates so significantly at the higher end.

Watch PvP videos of retail of a Templar (can't remember the video, but its on youtube) using +10 ABG GS and you'll notice that he does consistently 3.5k+ damage with BP no matter what vs cloth/leather/plate, which btw isn't even a high-end crit.

So Yazuki, you are correct in that the normal damage will for the most part of BP stay pretty consistent, but the High-End Crit damage of Break Power is inconsistent. I usually see around 2.5-4k damage nearly 90% of the time with my BP vs Players, but on the occasion of a high-end crit I'll see damage exceeding 5k+.

Also, I'm absolutely in disbelief at the comparisons of Sorc to Templar. SM's and Sorc's are still the best and most overpowered classes in the game due to the fact of their numerous skills which can be fought within any situation vs any class. Templars have massive CD's that take ages to return (This isn't 2009 when majority of their skills were half the time-frame that they are now making them obviously a far more powerful class).

Their BP needs a sequences of right skills in order to proc. You need PSC to cause a KD, or else if you're using GS it needs a crit+chance of kd in order to get BP. It only increases it frequency during zergs and this is mainly due with the help of Glads and their natural kd's which allows more accessibility to KD which results in more BP. However in zergs, a lot of things from every class lands more so it doesn't really matter here.

Temp's are not an overpowered class, considering three classes give them significant problems. SM's are almost impossible for me to beat, no matter what I try to do, no matter how high my MR resist is. One debuff and you're on the ground weeping. Sorcs with their 23094823094 defensive options gives them almost as much staying power as a Templar so the myth that they are a squishy class which dies in a few hits is an obvious lie + they do far greater damage per skill, while confronting very good clerics is a lost cause.

 

Of course crits are inconsistent I linked a screenshot of BP and I did it without armor on so that I WOULDN'T crit, I already know the crit damage of BP is inconsistent, Cazar thinks BP damage in general is random

 

It is since he is speaking base on his PvP experience the past months and not because he hit a simple dummy. Know the difference?

 

Wat?

PSC? Do you mean SPC? (Severe Precision Cut?) That's for glads *-*

What does PSC Stand for? I'm a little sleepy , sorry.

What i usually see is a templar using shieldburst to stumble his opponent and BP him.

In case you mean provoking shield counter(psc) then Bah. Noone waits to block a skill and use it , they use shieldburst as their first skill always.

 

I agree with you,i have been trying to show people that break power isnt THAT terrifying afterall,they just see the high dmg,they dont see the circumstances needed for that skill to activate and afterwards to land on the target. I also agree with you about sorcerers and spiritmasters,i go against sorcerers with my templar but i rather not go against spirit masters,if you fully buff you can beat a good sorcerer but i think even if u fully buff and waste all your heals you can still die from a good spirit master. And as a cleric i know that templars cant kill me (unless they are 2,in that case i can die from double BP ownage),but i have also tried to fight against clerics using my templar,and yea good clerics are badass,same goes for chanters,hardly possible to kill a good priest..

 

Can you stop trying to bait me please? You say BP damage is random even if its random by 25-50 points. I ADMIT it does random damage WITHIN 25-50 points of damage. What do you want from me? Just because I hit a dummy doesn't mean its going to be any different versus a player besides me hitting for less. I will still do the same amount of damage within 25-50 points unless I crit.

 

Lol are you a retard or pretending to be one? When i said that i can hit 4k-8k dmg did you really believe that i can hit 8k non crit,isnt it obvious that im talking about crit dmg?

This is the post

And yes i was talking about critical damages,rofl you think i would tell you its random if i hit someone 4k non crit and then 8k crit,then told you "hey yea its random,it can hit 4k non crit and 8k crit" >,<

 

Let's watch the language please... be polite in every conversation!

 

Yazuki,

She's not going to take your side.
But anyway, PvP experience is a bad example. When testing something, you're supposed to minimize variables not increase variables. The variance in damage is easily attributable to differences in classes, gear, and defense. What Yazuki is trying to say if I'm correct, is that the bp damage against the same class, same defense, etc will not be completely random like Badrobot is implying.

Actually, if you look at the screenshots he posted, one was about 15.7k. Half that is about 7850 so you probably should have specified.

 

Uehara please, just stop arguing with me I even went through the trouble of recording a video of me BPing a PERSON thats right just for you because you said my BP will do random damage if I duel someone, not hit a dummy.

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Same amount against a player? You versus a Sorcerer, with Stone Skin you will deal xx damage, without Stone Skin probably higher, might as well Crit. Against a Ranger, with its Dodge skill, you will Dodge, any damage? Zero. To a fellow Templar, with Barricade Steel up, Block 10 Break Power damage dealt? Without Barricade Steel, higher damage...

Point? That is why we are encouraging you to test it in PvP then speak than hitting a dummy that can not fight back nor buff up because in PvP you can know from the full extent the capability of the skill from all and different circumstances and different classes you are against with.

 

I didnt know that i have to spoon feed him every time,im talking about pvp dmg of break power,mentioning numbers such as 8k.i didnt know that i had to explain that it was critical,i thought its obvious that you can only hit 8kBP when it crits. But w/e this conversation is pointless.

 

Okay for the last time, I won't explain again of course BP does random damage when you're hitting DIFFERENT OPPONENTS my point this entire thread is that hitting the same person you will do the same damage WITHIN 50 points of damage. This is NOT Cazars point so PLEASE stop defending your friend just because he is your friend and trying to steer this argument in the opposite direction

 

Please read the post you're replying to. Not trying to be a prick.

 

1:20+ to 30 something, what 2380? It is 2280.

You did not come up with the always SAME damage as what you were trying to say. And as I said, bottom line here, if it is not same it is RANDOM!

 

I never talked about HIS screen shots,im talking about MY post. And yea im replying to you,not trying to be a prick.