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How to launch aion on 64bit?

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by tritium, Oct 25, 2011.

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  1. Yazuki

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    ??? Why did you bold what I said and then said the exact same thing. I said people can't use 64 bit programs if they're on 32-bit systems because you said "r u kidding me? just coz some noobs dunno how to use it (probably people with 32 bit systems trying to run a 64bit app) they remove it completely lol"

    It's NCSofts fault that people are having problems with the 64-bit version of the game because they didn't go through and test/tweak their game to be fully compatible for 64-bit. This led to many people having trouble running the 64-bit version WITH a 64-bit system.

    I said its NCSoft's fault for not testing their game. I did not say its their fault because people are trying to run 64 bit software on their 32 bit system.
     
  2. Smartik1

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    sorry lol, ur english made it sound like ur blaming ncsoft for people with 32 bit windows not being able to run the 64 bit client xD

    anyways as far as i know, a lot of people could use the 64 bit client just fine. if it doesnt work for some people, they can always return to the 32 bit client, they arent forced to use the 64 bit one. hence i see it as retarded that they just take it away from people that like it
     
  3. Yazuki

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    My english is fine o_O the comma is there to represent a pause in the sentence. The comma changes the whole meaning of the sentence I wrote which I guess is what confused you. Probably should have been more clear and directly quoted what I was referring to when I said that.
     
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    its not bout the comma :p its bout saying its ncsofts fault, continued by explaining how its not their fault lol. then u said they didnt make sure 64 bit is compatible with the game (while 64 bit IS the game, if u meant the OS, they cant make the OS compatible)

    lol lets just drop it xD
     
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    No I was saying it's NC Softs fault not the peoples fault that 64 bit got removed.

    I said they didn't make sure the game is 64 bit compatible because they have to redesign certain parts of the game to allow for it to take advantage of 64 bit technology.

    You don't just magically create a new launcher for a game to run in 64-bit that was at the time designed specifically around 32-bit technology and expect it to work flawlessly. You have to re-design certain parts of the game engine so that it takes advantage of the differences in 32-bit and 64-bit. Your OS doesn't magically do all of this for the game ~_~
     
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    well its not just the launcher u know, a lot of the things r used by both the same way (textures etc) and the bin folder is the engine that they already had in 64bit. its just that many programmers dont know how to deal with 64bit well coz they r new to it (same with multithreading, some games do it really badly and end up disabling it later on)
     
  7. Yazuki

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    I know how 64bit works, just your sentence "then u said they didnt make sure 64 bit is compatible with the game (while 64 bit IS the game, if u meant the OS, they cant make the OS compatible)" doesn't really make sense to me. I said NCSoft didn't work on making the game compatible with 64 bit(because they didn't) which is 100% true. You need to change your game around to allow it to run in 64 bit. You cant make a game like half-life(Just naming an old game that was made when 64-bit wasn't around yet) run in 64-bit if it wasn't designed to be ran in 64-bit.

    They may have a folder to allow the game to run in 64-bit, but they're taking down 64-bit accessibility because of the sole reason that they didn't test it and they don't support it which is why it's their fault in the first place. It's going to be re-released AFTER they redesign the game with 64-bit technology.
     
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    hint: look into ur aion folder

    bin64 = designed for 64 bit. it was designed for both
     
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    They may have a folder to allow the game to run in 64-bit, but they're taking down 64-bit accessibility because of the sole reason that they didn't test it and they don't support it which is why it's their fault in the first place. It's going to be re-released AFTER they redesign the game with 64-bit technology.

    Explanation again: bin64 wasn't tested or supported. They're taking 64 bit accessibility down so they can tweak the game and go through and make necessary changes so that it works correctly. (Not everyone's 64 bit client was working perfectly with 64-bit OS. It created a lot of unnecessary issues which were unsupported by NCSoft)
     
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    u keep talking bout redesigning with 64 bit technology, ignoring the fact that it already IS 64 bit technology, they just didnt code it well. it does take advantage of its benefits though

    its kinda like saying we should stop playing aion till evilset redesigns it to work with 32 bit technology >.> it already is, its just bugged as hell coz the code sux, but its using it
     
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    We must have different definitions of the word redesign then because redesigning and recoding is the exact same thing. They didn't code the game correctly for 64bit which is what I have been saying and its also what you just said in your last post. They have to redesign/recode it for 64bit like I've been saying this entire time.


    It's like I'm trying to argue with someone who has the same view as me but isn't understanding it.
     
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    gamezaion doesnt support 64bit... it only works on retail.
     
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    well u talk bout it as if they just added 1 line saying <this is 64bit> and pretend its 64 bit lol, u say it as if they dont actually use the 64 bit features, they do but its just bugged.

    said that a long time ago xD and retail is taking it off apparently

    anyway going to sleep
     
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    No thats what you've been doing, I've been trying to explain they have to change the whole game for 64 bit to work. ~_~

    I've already said "You don't just magically create a new launcher for a game to run in 64-bit that was at the time designed specifically around 32-bit technology and expect it to work flawlessly. You have to re-design certain parts of the game engine so that it takes advantage of the differences in 32-bit and 64-bit. Your OS doesn't magically do all of this for the game ~_~"

    You're failing to understand what I meant from that post. In all my posts so far I've been trying to explain to you that applying 64-bit to a game is more complex than you think which is the complete opposite of "well u talk bout it as if they just added 1 line saying <this is 64bit> and pretend its 64 bit lol"
     
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    technically they just needed to recompile the aion in a 64bit machine, with some minor adjustments in the codes to support what was changed. but i don't know, if it works flawlessly, that's probably how ncsoft did it expecting it would still be like 32bit.
     
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    Thats most likely what they did and just left it there as bin64, without properly testing it and seeing if it actually worked. When problems arise from people using the untested bin64, it led to complaints which NC Soft couldn't answer because they had no support to answer those problems. Which ended in the closure of 64-bit accessibility.
     
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    Guys, guys. 64-bit systems are designed to run 64-bit programs. It's one of the perks from having 64-bit. The other perk is being able to allocate more RAM for the program. Some users would see an FPS improvement in a 64-bit executeable.

    Aion wasn't made for 64-bit, but it does support it. I heard a user from here got a 64-bit version working.

    Here's how he did it:

    1) Back up bin32 and bin64.

    2) Rename the original bin32 to something irrelevant.

    3) Rename the bin64 to bin32. Run the Gamez Installer.

    4) Execute Aion. If it works, great. If not, put things the way they were and grab a tissue.
     
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    Good information in this thread. Am I really on GameZ forum? Wow.

    Probably, what NC should have done regarding 64 bit was this; leave it up, put a disclaimer that says, "If this works, fine, use it. If not, feel free to post your system specs, the issue, and dont hold your breath because its not supported as of right now."
     
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