A serious question

Since no one really dedicated a thread to that topic , I'm gonna ask the question straight out :

What's the deal with the refunds ? In my humble opinion you donate money without excepting anything in return , that's how it works in RL and i don't see the point why it should be any different here . This should be no offense against people who donate nor is it a ..well as most people describe it "QQ" thread since i got nothing to do with it , I'm just curious .I see the credits that you gain by donations as a little "thank you" . I gotta add that I'm really confused about some trolls around here pretending to speedhack and nothing happens because they donated an amount of X cash which in fact is strange since they're keep flapping their gums around here how mighty they are hacking in front of GMs without even getting banned or whatsoever .I can't see the point in giving them the refunds cuz additional to the above stated facts , they already spent their credits for several things like weapons or whatever they bought with them and enjoyed some time here with it .Still they act like "Zomg , server is not perfect , how dare you to not be perfect , I want my money back " . In my opinion they make theirselves look like buttcheeks by doing that .

KK , I'm finished now with my poem lol , would be nice if someone could answer without flaming as it is not ment to be an offense .

 

i think i expressed my point of view in the other thread. but well said

 

this really sucks,im not donator and i got banned,and omggg so called Ald in game(the guy who vid me while i was hacking)is a donator and he's using speed hack at free will

 

lol yeah its just that the word "donate" is understood as "item mall" by most people, thats where it comes from. i think if u didnt get anything for it then yeah a lot less people would donate but they wouldnt complain xD on the other hand if u get something for donating and then have it taken away then it doesnt feel too good

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welcome to the real world ^^ money makes the world turn around xD

 

Believing his trolling is more stupid than speedhacking in the first place.

@ the OP, you are getting what you pay for when donating. You aren't paying for a stable server, though that is what you would like your money to be spent on. You are paying for credits and gear. This server wouldn't get nearly as many donations or votes without that gear incentive. There is no promise that the money you spend will be spent on only the server.

 

well dude..
1st of all don hack..
then can complain others..
try to be logically sane pls

 

So they do not actually have a right to get the refund ? Cuz it would just seem wrong to me when someone would donate XXX $ , have his fun with the stuff and then suddenly changed his mind and wants his money back .

 

Morally, they don't. You paid the money and got what you were paying for. Getting banned or rage quitting doesn't change that. Unfortunately, not everyone was born with basic knowledge of right and wrong.

 

Common guys,just be resonable. Its not about the refund its about the server not getting any better (and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong). I donated so you and me can have a descent server to play on, and thats not happening. You are all getting the wrong impression about the word DONATION. Since you get something in return its a trade and one of the two in trade are unsatisfied so he wants his money back. I mean,its not rocket science...and this thing is def not donation..

 

I'm gonna make it totally clear.

You recieve credits for donation. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

I can and did refund because I felt it was a waste of money going to ungrateful and bad admins. There is nothing wrong with that. They shouldn't have allowed it in the first place. And they shouldn't have let things go to hell to only care about donations. Carl logs in 5 min to make sure he is getting the most money possible, then leaves. I did not donate for that

 

Ok, Autumn call it whatever you want to call it. I just want my DONATION/CHARITY money back...There you go,Im the bad guy,but at least I dont tolerate rip offs and I assure you that donating to Gamez is a total rip off...For christ sake, there are about 2 threads,2 emails,2 pms and no word...WTF?Should I send a mailing pigeon or something?

 

Wrong , you donate to support something , not to get something back in return , you probably wouldn't donate when you wouldn't gain the credits .

You get it as a "thank you" for helping the server , therefore it's not a trade . Let's say you donate something for church and in return they give you a different looking bible as a "thank you" , is that a trade too ? No , it's clearly not .

It's not a trade ,and let's just say it WOULD be a trade , you spent the money for the credits , cuz that's what you got in return so you actually got what you paid for .

It's actually a donation and i find it kinda amusing and at the same time sad how people try to bend things till it fits their will.

They used birds in the renaissance

 

Through Paypal its considered a trade, so he can refund if he wants. Especially seeing how badly this servr is doing. I jsut do not know why he hasnt filed a dispute yet

 

to be honest saying people donated to make the server better isnt really true, im pretty sure most just wanted the strong website gear to be better than the rest ^^ saying they gave it for improving the server and now wanting it back coz its not being done is just a way to make themselves look nice but yeah im pretty sure with the money they got from donations so far they could have bought better hardware for the server. its a 1 time payment and would have saved a whole lot of complaint threads on the forums as well as their own trouble constantly having to restart the server (and really having to deal with all the attempts for refunds)

 

Did you get it back ? I'm curious.

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I wouldn't go that far to say that everyone acts like that but I agree that most of the people do .

 

Honestly the part were it said Donation should have been your first sign that it wasn't something you can get back. The credits you receive is called an incentive. Alot of company's do this, its not a trade. Its basically saying hey, you don't have one of theses yet. we will give it to you if you Donate a dollar, look how shiny it is you know you want it lol. Obviously you should grow up, your in the real world now, and throwing a temper tantrum about how your so upset with the server is unacceptable, considering its free.

In no way have you paid to play it. Giving you no right to complain about it, Donation is just that a donation. You waived your right to complain about paying money for it when you donated. Because you literally gave them money for no reason. Besides the fact that we know everyone here donates for the selfish reasons of I want to be better then everyone else. Not the good reason of hey, im going to donate so everyone can have fun. Don't lie, everyone knows you donated to get the PVP gear. You had your fun with it, and now that you don't want to play anymore. You want your money back. Its childish grow up please.

 

Yeah. just yesterday in fact. its why I am so happy. And I believe I still am not banned (but it should be quick now since I admitted it on the forums). But i did sell m stuff really cheap/free anyhow already lol

EDIT: You needed to have donated through a paypal account and it takes about 11 days. But sicne a lot of people have been doing it recently, its pretty much guarenteed. There is a specific way you do it though

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I got it back so your whole argument is false

 

omg how lame...

 

Your just asses that arent getting their way so they cry and when they decide to use the money on other parts of their server you decide you want a refund wich is probably why carl doesnt use the money.


Also Definition of Donation:A gift given by physical or legal persons, typically for charitable purposes and/or to benefit a cause

if Carl had put buy credits then you greedy kiddies should get your money back. Says donations so stop being asshats