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  1. Badrobot

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    You need full buff to achieve 6k dmg on abg with BP,and the buffs of temp have 1.5 and 3m cooldown,and u need them both if u want that maximum dmg,afaik glacial has lower cooldown than 3minutes..

    Oh btw im talking about siel here,not about lumiel.

    Also,cloth class vs plate? So you are saying that plate classes are stronger than cloth? Lol say what? Sorcs are way stronger than glads,and well played sorcs can rape templars as well. Not to mention spirit masters.the kinds of opness..
     
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    Do sorceror's buffs all of a sudden not have a cool down as well?
     
  3. Zergme

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    Yeah 5k crits in any class besides fully buffed chanter or another templar is basically win. Considering in all the time it takes to cast sheild you hardly take dmg. On a sorc you are vulnerable on all sides for 4 seconds. Shit does not go down like this on stigma servers why should it on siel as well?
     
  4. Uehara

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    I do not have the SS of that. And I do not know if who I hit was an ABG user. Next time, I will ask.
     
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    Glacial Shard = 1 Min Cooldown, 4 Secs Cast, A MAGIC SPELL I REPEAT - which means it has low crit chance, AND it's a class' that's supposed to hit hard

    Once again, you make no sense.. sorry.

    @Uehara
    How many times do we have to repeat it?

    1) I'm sure it's not like on retail.
    2) If as you say we can't know how things are on retail, then let's mess up with all the skills and make em hit for 100k each.
    3) I just want to show your husband that what he says is wrong
    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.

    Thank you for understanding.
     
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    Yes i agree sorc can win 1v1 but that doesn't justify breakpower, moreover sorcerer is crippled by huge cooldowns on key skills making them alot less reliable in group pvp.

    I just want it to be fair, sorcerers get 20% damage nerfs on their main nukes and due to the communties demand breakpower should have it too.

    Curse of weakness 5 min cd
    Illusion storm 5 min cd
    Magic assist 5 min cd
    Inferno 2 min cd.
    Arcane thunderbolt 2.5 min cd
    Suppli of focus 2 min cd
    Frost 1 min cd
    Sleeping storm 3 min cd
    Ele ward 3 min cd

    Thanks, thats all im trying to tell but people never listen. ever.
     
  7. Badrobot

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    Break power= Strong in retail,achieved ONLY after successful stumble,so its not like you can hit anytime,u need to shieldburst first,and the dmg is high ONLY when you have buffs on,i think i make enough sense but you dont want to understand cause templars give you a hard time in game and probably smack you with some 6k crits once in awhile leading you to lose AP. Sry about that,just learn how to play against them..
     
  8. Shunko

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    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.


    4) We are not going retail like on that subject because it's an all-stigmas server. Nerf the class u dislike and leave the class you like? No dear.. if they make the sorcs' spells hit as hard as they should, you would all ragequit. Glacials would hit 5k noncrit.
    We nerf classes to balance the game, not because that's how it is on retail. Templar should be nerfed just like assassins and sorcs are.
     
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  9. Uehara

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    Balance? You're kidding right? You know it yourself that balancing everything around here isn't possible. Why? Because of people like, I don't know who cry about everything they see that is what they think wrong or something they can not adapt with.

    If you really think that BP isn't retail-like, how come since day 1 that they made BP a killer skill, up to now it still hasn't change? I believe this isn't the only thread that talked about Break Power but no changes at all. Maybe the staffs still needs proof. If it is not retail-like then why don't do it retail-like (if here it is too high) but if it is retail-like that what makes it high dealing damage, then why they don't nerf it like what they did to Sorcerers? Maybe they are still waiting for proof instead of mere words from each and everyone of us.
     
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    That is our point. Stumble chance is too high and Templars keep using BP. And if it's a fight without buffs.. then sorcs cast slow enough to get killed by any class. If the templar is too slow or too retarded and doesn't know when to buff, it is not our fault.
    As as i said before, shieldburst even stumbles through illusion.

    You are playing a BROKEN class and u are telling me that i don't know how to defeat a BROKEN class by using a class that is NERFED?
    Is that how you make sense? I am truly disappointed.

    @Uehara
    Kidding? Is that how people make jokes in your country?
    If you don't believe that the server can get balanced, why do u even play?
    We believe we can balance the server and that's why the sorcs' spells have been nerfed (All the nukes, including shadow/lightburst)
    But oh please, it's not ur class that was nerfed, why would you quit? Keep supporting the imbalance.


    @Shunko
    Larger font please, they are too blind to see it.
     
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    Learn how to play against a class on siel that can win any 1 v 1 due to buff spam? Bro when I had my temp (before it was Op'd) I killed 4 sins and a cleric. Don't even get me started. I doubt you have the extensive knowledge about this game that you claim you do and I doubt you played retail or a stigma server for all that long. The templar nerf will come eventually just be prepared for it. Glads got their nerf sorc did and sins lol are overnerfed atm. Don't QQ when your Sorc-Glad class get's nerfed.
     
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    Why are you so ignorant to the point that i want to smack my head with full force against a wall? Plechac and many others have already proven that inferno flame spray and glacial were working according to retail formula and have a custom nerf of 20%. I just want breakpower to be the same k thx.

    Protip: I actually switched to assassin because every class in the game is too damn easy and let me tell you the difference between fighting a templar or a sorcerer as asssassin. Thats right, fighting templar as assassin is like trying to eat soup with your eyes and don't come telling me it's the anti class because sorcerer is templars anti class.
     
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    We should really be asking for scout class fixes (or a mau form debuff and normal ranger dmg buff) and just a general fix for sins. Including bugged signet (love when I see sorcs casting while silenced) But that would piss way too many people off afterall.
     
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    A broken class you say? How about sorc having all stigmas AKA having all the defensive buffs + offensive buffs + all skills,doesnt that somehow make it OP? Dude,sorc is the strongest class in gamezaion "siel",everyone knows that,then comes SM. Cut the crap please. Just learn how to play your class so u wont be having problems. Btw shieldurst CANT miss,its on the description of the skill,its not a bug or anything,go aiondatabase.com - Aion Database and read.
     
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    Ranger damage is fine it's just 99% of the rangers on gamez don't kite.
    Mau has got to go though.
     
  16. Shunko

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    thats not a fault of retail baboon thats a fault of you playing on siel with all stigmas imbalancing the game while you could also be playing on lumiel.
     
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    Templar's also have both trees unless you fell on your head today and forgot that. Class that tanks 20+ people and can roflstomp pwn and kill 2 people solo while in the process of tanking 20+ dudes. I know how to play my class idk if you do. Oh yeah glad's SPC also had a nerf im pretty sure so why not BP or some of glads sheild skills then? I guess you don't want your godmode cheats taken away from you... If so go play a single player game no an mmo where you can do those things.
     
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    Its funny how i already predicted the result of this thread in the ninth post.
    ****ing christ.
     
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    Feel free to hit your hard and please make it harder because you, yourself didn't get what I said.

    I will explain further.

    You said that those 3 nukes were retail-like yet been nerfed due to the simple factor about full stigma server set up, here's my deal..

    Petro said it is not retail-like. Then what is it?
    Petro said the staffs are not going retail-like on this matter. Then what?

    So here comes your deal, it is not retail-like and never will be so that it will be fair for all the class who got nerfed though their damage formulas were accurate from retail.

    My question is, why up to now they haven't done anything about it? Who actually proven it to you Petro that it is not retail-like? Any video? And if there is, then why until 2.7 it's still an issue? How nerf are they planning to nerf BP??
     
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    But im not playing in lumiel,im playing in siel and carl or evilset or whoever does the changes,they knew that sorcerers having all the stigmas are way stronger than any other class "aside of sm",cause their build is that way,in lumiel sorcers lose so much either tree they pick but here no,they have it all,thats why they decreased the dmg power a bit (even tho im not really sure,my sorc hits glacial 4k+ on full abg so i dont compain),all the changes are being made because of a reason dude,none was playing templar here cause it simply used to suck,the skills were just too weak,they gave break power to temps so the class can evolve..
     
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