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ANONYMOUS - what do you think about this hacker movement?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by WENDEGO, Nov 10, 2011.

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  1. Ladien

    Ladien The Last Karate Baby

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    wall of texts e.e
     
  2. Nujabes

    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    Well, I read it all. Ain't as long as it seem. Also, got to quote him for such a small writing lol? I had to drag my scroll down to post.
     
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    Anonymous should hack NASA and spread some of the billions of $$$ they have stole from american people all those years.
     
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    Well what's done is done, we need to move forward, and complain less about injustice things that happen, we should do more things that we like and enjoy, talk about topics we feel positively passionate about, and less complaining. For people who don't have enough money, should just try to enjoy life more, say thanks for what they already have, and less talking about that they don't have something enough, they should think more good stuffs, thoughts about themselves in a good way, than complain how bad are things, themselves and others, because the problem isn't in money or in resources or w/e, the problem is in people thinking about things, themselves and others.
     
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    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    Well actually, the problem is much bigger than you think. Hard to enjoy life knowing that your own country leaves you expendable. Another 9/11 can happen at any moment and you could very well be the next victim.

    We can't have unconditional love for each other when we live in a system that is unethical to each other. Money is the root of all evil in the end of the day. We'll always be owing somebody, always in labour, always in competition, always working as slaves for the bankers. We have reasons to be angry, knowing when something is not right.
     
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    Well I know and see situation what's going around the world, but let me ask you right now, do you feel better thinking about it, mention it all the time? Can you do something about it, right now? What's your answer? The thing is, if you could atleast try to think more about things what you like and brings the joy, than we even wouldn't be in this situation, but we are at the moment. You say it's hard not to pay attention to it, I'm not saying that you shouldn't , I just believe that if you fix, improve yourself first, you can do a lot more to help others, if you feel like crap, it's hard to make other people around you feel better, give them inspiration, to do, learn, enjoy good things and emotions. And you would see how drastically would change people around you, at the moment don't try to fix the world, start from yourself. :)

    Don't compete with others, just try to do things as best as you can, just leave away that competition emotion away, try it out , when you are playing something with your friends, and working with your colleagues, well in what ever you are doing, where could be competition involved, just throw it away, when you just enjoy your work and learning new things, experiences, you don't lose the energy, while competitors lose their time and energy while thinking how they need to become better over someone else, it's worthless effort. Because when you think a lot about competition, you just get more situations where is asked from you to compete.

    You are slave at the moment, because you believe to in that, if you can dismiss that slavery part, and try see yourself from other perspective, positive angle, your experiences will improve, and with time you won't feel like that.

    Oh, it makes me little bit sad, hearing that from you :) Money root of evil - disagree, right now, we live at time when money is important tool for our daily lifes, but it's not that people can't get it, because few people have taken control over money flow, you need to understand that it's in your hands, to get how much money you want and need, crying about it doesn't make situation better, just worse. Money brings a lot good things in our lifes, money is just the currency at the moment how we can value things, ofcourse I believe in future we won't need it, but now we need it, so just get your ass up, and do something about it :), like I would have the same rights, cry and vomit about what's happening arround the world, but I know that it will just held back my inspiration and passion for doing things, what I'm doing. Trust me, it's not that bad as you think it's :) At the end you are creating your experiences, and you can just make things better, starting from yourself.

    Changes take time, even oak tree, won't grow to it's fullest glory in 1 day, it takes lifetime. But time, can be enjoyed fully every day. Every bad thought you think, is really a wasted time.

    People are not yet ready to live without money because if right now, we would take all money out or give money to everyone, chaos would start, it wouldn't be any better, what is needed, is that people start trust, have faith in their selves, develop themselves, than when most society have done that and more good things, the next stage will appear.
     
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  7. TheShaikan

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    i think that they`r a bunch of attention whores.
     
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    Okey, could you also add some feedback about them:)?, because "attention whore" thing, could be some part of its movement, but not the whole picture.
    Don't you think, that there's little bit more to it? :)
     
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    no. they`r just attention whores.
     
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    Okey, thanks for the opinion. :)
     
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    I could give a rat's ass about anon. Yes, it could be perceived as a movement but it seems more like a philosophy to me. Anyone with a like minded motive could spontaneously take on the mantle of anonymous to enact whatever action they so please. People tend to slander it under the guise of "internet crime", but not every anon is a criminal.

    It's extremely hard to put this in words.
     
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    bump
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    I understand your points but why would I try fix myself when I don't actually see any flaws in myself that has a major impact to the world as the money do? I'm sorry but money hasn't done 'good things' at all, every 'good' outcome was purely out of human passion, it could of happened without any money at all. Every environmental problem is a technical, money related issue. It's very existence shouldn't of happened. Remember, the economy is not there to support your needs, it's designed to keep only the profit continuing at the expense of your well being. Economy can't make profit when everyone's needs are met, it needs terrible things to occur so certain jobs can still make profit. It is designed to keep us in dept. Money is debt and were all victims of it. What really is another problem which is not allowing us to be aware is something I'll leave as a quotation.

    “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

     
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    Oh my god Nujabes, you would.
     
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    would what?
     
  17. WENDEGO

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    Eh, it's awesome that you don't see any flaws in yourself, that's great, I'm genuinely happy for ya:) The main thing what I was trying to say, is that you should concentrate on yourself, not blaming external factors, because when you're able to understand, that definitely everything is in your hands, life gets a lot more enjoyable.

    Johann Wolfgang van Goethe yay :) Very optimistic, it seems from his point of view everyone who is abiding by certain rules are enslaved, at the moment I've few rules I'm abiding, but my job is pretty great, school is interesting aswell, I've lots of fun with colleagues and friends, same as with gf's just in other way, I've loads of time for my hobbys, and at the moment enjoying conversation with you, and you can do things pretty flexible, so if Wolfgang wants to call it as slavery, than I don't mind being a slave for now, not a fan of the word "slave" :) And if you take it as that, every single person from population of 7 billion including every single person are slaves, so believe in what ever you want, you want to tell yourself that this external factors doesn't let you live how you would want, sure go ahead it's your truth, for me, politicians, economics, crisis, war, what ever factor you want to offer won't stand a chance, to not enjoy my time here :) (hug) :)
     
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    Not a single Flaw?
     
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    We are taught to think we all have many flaws. If you don't think you have flaws then you already took the last step to getting rid of your flaws.
     
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    im just really scared of those guys :O
     
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