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[Suggestion] Sorcerer Buff Balancing

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by vRisen, Jan 8, 2012.

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  1. Sexyfear

    Sexyfear Getting there

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    YES, I read what you wrote carefully before responding.
    Even If you 're not talking about all it's the same in my eyes. Why nerf sorc's buffs so badly? And why even nerf 'em at all?
    -300 mag acc? wintry sorcs killed
    -40% defence? what I will have after? -300 def?
    -300 mag res? f*cked against clers (already f*cked If wintry build with no mag acc stones)
    +30% casting speed? already capped in 70%, isn't this fine?
     
  2. vRisen

    vRisen Banned

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    Finally a useful post!

    Yeah, I didn't really intend for those numbers to be that high, I wrote this up in a jiffy. :)

    That's the kind of post I was looking for, sorta.
     
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  3. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    lol funny, the only "useful" post is 1 that agrees with him, so gamez typical :p
    dont like it? theres this useful server transfer service feature, go play on a "balanced" server as u call it if thats what u want

    every class can be op depending on who plays it, deal with it. u said it urself just coz u have 800 ping doesnt mean u can change whatever u like lol
     
  4. Ekzh

    Ekzh B E W I L D Forum Legend

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    Why should sorc be nerfed if is possible to counter... you just need to now how to play and have the proper skills...

    Oh and before u say it, no, i don't play sorc.
     
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    not realy.. sorcs have wintry (autokill sin) massive pewpew massive debuff massive roots, and also evazion skill and remove debuff skill

    oh lets not forget the buffs....
    well sorcs ARE op on siel
    but thats the way u want to play

    if he wants to play on a balanced server he just need to go lumiel... sorcs are just fine there
     
  6. vRisen

    vRisen Banned

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    The post is useful because it criticizes things in the post, like how much MACC is decreased by. Your posts criticize things that do not exist because you cannot read English and/or your translator bugged.

    Is everything you type intended to be a straw-man statement? If I had a nickel for every time you posted something stupid and useless, I'd be able to donate for an ABG set.

    My ping is 20ms.

    How is it possible for melee characters to counter sorcerer if they do not have buffs for them? I can socket the hell out of MR and sorcerers will still land hits on me with just one buff. If a templar sockets the hell out of block, how many physical hits get landed on him? Hmm?

    I would actually value your posts, Ehpsilon, since you're an ex-GM. But your posts CLEARLY show me that you'd rather roll with your cool little zerg and throw nukes everywhere.
     
  7. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    yea, we can have nice buffs but we also have caps and like 5 second duration on a lot of them. sorc r virtually the only class that has to keep standing still to attack with most skills, there r many ways to deal with that. yea 0.8s delay per click has to make it shitty for u but that doesnt mean u can go nerfing a class lol
     
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    just coz i dont retype a number? its in the post. no i dont use a translator and no, using personal insults doesnt make ur argument valid

    theres a reason why the top killer list isnt all sorc, ive seen enough good people with their own classes coz u know, they actually know how to play their classes rather than QQing on the forums that other r OP

    that just makes u a liar :p
     
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    i read whole thread and this thread is QQ thread and let me explain why.
    people used to qq about sorc back in 1.5 and 1.9 when accuracy and evansion were broken. sorc could 2 hit any class, but because of the broken evansion any class with stun could end with sorc during stun. in 2.0 when boq was not instant cast skill and sorc used to miss some skills, they started to complain about the damage of glacial shard, and because of that gs hits 3-5k when it used to hit 8-12k, it was not enough and community again complained about damage so they caped sorc damage to 2.6k ( which is bullshit). When noobs could no longer finish their opponents in few hits, they started using shadow/light burst which as you know was instant death, carl also nerfed it and now you cant kill your opponent with one shadow/light burst, even though that skill has 1 hour cd. I almost forgot that range was also shortened because of QQes how OP sorc was. Dear community remember one thing: sorcerer is considered as the strongest class in every bloody mmo !
     
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    Your posts are useless. Stop making a fool of yourself please.

    I don't give a **** what you think this thread is. It's a SUGGESTION thread in the SUGGESTION forum.

    Pretty sure that's a RETAIL CAP. Nukes not one-shotting anymore, noob?

    That must make things difficult for you.

    I saw this coming. People with Sorcerers as their main are the only ones whining and not being constructive at all.
     
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    look whos talking, every post u make is a personal insult rather than a valid argument about the topic in question

    @snic thx, thats coz some people dont get the idea of max hit vs dps, highest dmg automatically means OP :p
     
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    i did not mention anywhere what i think, i wrote only what is fact, and for your amazement stop acting like a dickhead and listen to people, if you suggest something let the public judge, neither gms nor hms can change anything even if they accept stfu and gtfo with your chilidish sarcasm
     
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    I used to be a Sorc and i love it since it was fun, but there were some gladi/templar asmos that could rape my ass before that i could click my buff. Some of them are in your Legion now. Some don't know where they are.

    And also, they got raped by sorc cause they had some cd and coulnt finish their combo, but still, it was pretty posible with the right gear and manastone build.

    And its kinda hard to set balance in a server like Siel where gear makes much difference and where u have all the skills.

    I also played other classes, and i could rape sorc with SM and Cleric. Not so much with physic classes since i sucked with them [specially i suck with sin ¬¬]
     
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    You know that it's not going to happen....
     
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    I'm playing your game.

    It does it it takes a majority of HP.
     
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    Yap i agree.. 2.6k is a retail cap!! you have right on that!! but..

    which part of ur "Suggestion" is retail??
     
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    Yes it matters. Forget the quote "Size doesn't matter", has nothing to do with Aion. Physical Defense matters, especially in cloth classes as the one you 're talking about. Then let a glad/temp/ranger/sin/chant just auto attack me, I 'll die in 2 seconds.
    Oh really bro? This is what other classes have to mostly when they playing with all stigmas like you doing in Siel. That's why probably you created this post.
    I said +30% which it means I add casting time, I'm not reducing it (-30%). And a gladiator, which you probably are, has a passive skill named Slaughter +300 mag acc + dealing 25% extra damage to a PC. Am I wrong?
     
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    nobody has been 1 shotting anybody for months now (xept for ungeared lowlvls but then again, every geared class pwns those). anyway as i can clearly see that ur stubborn with utter disregard to what anybody that doesnt agree says im gonna call it a day. ur like a broken record with prerecorded insults :p "i will have it my way, whoever doesnt agree is an idiot" hmm where have i seen that before lol

    anyways im out :p cya guys, good luck getting anything into this guy. luckily, hes not the one to make changes so nothing to worry about
     
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    You really expect me to listen to a bunch of Sorcerers complain because I'm suggesting that a few of their buffs receive a counter to balance things out? How about YOU listen to the other classes. Go to any of your friends that don't play sorcerer and ask them if sorcerer is OP.

    I do kill most sorcerers quickly because you know what happens if I don't? I die, fast. I mean REALLY fast. All I'm asking for is a slight nerf in some of their buffs because that's how the other class buffs are. Look at berserking / Shadow Rage for example. They give side-effects to balance out the bonuses that they receive. That's because you're supposed to think about your situation before popping a buff. That's all I'm asking for. A sorcerer can pop every single buff and receive zero counter-effects that would make him think twice about popping that buff.

    I'm asking for one or two counter effects to their 4390469034 damage and accuracy buffs.

    I want to see a sorcerer walk up to an MR-built character and decide not to pop all of their buffs, because they know that the spells won't land. That's how the other classes think.

    Constructive posts are usually a little bit more specific. Just stop posting.
     
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    Well hes right but... with 3.0 that cap has being increased, don't know how much but i bet that there will be a lot of QQ when we get 3.0.
     
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