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So when are we nerfing Fear?

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  1. xRoche

    xRoche Proficient

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    Serious question.



    EDIT: Talking about Siel.

    Close this please.
     
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    xRoche Proficient

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    No class can come prepared to 5+ consecutive fears except possibly a cleric that casted healing servant and DoT heals beforehand to survive the onslaught. Even then it's a long shot.

    The only sure way is a MR set. Which is ridiculous for it to be a "MR or go home" mentality.

    Thanks for the ignorant and unhelpful reply though.
     
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    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    I heard about the duration being decreased in 3.0, didn't state how much of a decrease however. As for this actual server, no idea.
     
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    MR isn't going to do you any good since most sm's are full magical accuracy.
     
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    whole point is to not get there, to not able the sm to fear you beforehand
     
  6. xRoche

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    Thank god for that.

    Don't get me wrong though, I support SMs using fear. They get torn up if people make direct contact with them.

    But this server is a unique case to retail (obviously) due to stigma fears, and this game in general to there being no diminishing returns. A SM can win with anybody 1v1 unable to put up a fight at all what-so-ever because fear is stacked upon fear so it's pretty much a "I win" class for solo pvp unless the opponent manages to proc a silence godstone before it happens or has a MR set.

    That's entirely too difficult unless you're a class with a silence spell.
     
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    is it, really? i tend to agree with pkpuffer, almost every class can prevent the sm from completing the 2s casting of fear, whether it'd be atumble for glads, pull for temps, stun for rangers/chanter , silence for sorcs....even using obstacles will prevent that cast from comleting..
    luckily, this server has no exceptional spiritmasters, so not much to worry about
     
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    There's instant cast fears. From then on they can easily fear chain seconds before the one that's already on you expires.
     
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    yeah that may be fatal but again it has 5m cd and is avoidable with FE/aethertwisitng
     
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    sooo... another QQ thread..

    serious reply
     
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    when he casts it you have exacly 1 second to interrupt him ither stun stumble. do that >.>
     
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    crushing blow > crippling> draining> final> tendon > absoring > DEAD :D
     
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    Actually, specifically in 1 vs 1 situations, SM's are generally just the most unfair to go up against. Only templars with protected scrolls in front of their AA buff is the best bet or sorc. You can come up with majority of 'alternatives' but the truth of the matter is fear is an annoyance when the guy just uses it all.

    Sins/rangers got little chance for an SM that simply doesn't hold back, they'll put off silence, and the time you want to put skill debuffs ahead of silence so the pot can't work on it, you'll be in fear already. Lucky in this server, you got access to 10% silence, if they don't use hide, well tough luck for them.

    Glads? The stumble you do will simply get you in the remove shock fear and following more fears after that.

    They're more easier in open world pvp though. But I'll never fight an sm with a cleric/chanter as his support alone. I'll just leave.

    I did beat a skilled SM (fear user too) with my chanter though, had 2.3k mr, and just kept my HoT on while in fear.
     
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    Instant cast.

    You forget the part where the SM fears. That's a best case scenario where you get a serious pre-emptive strike.

    Also SM's can easily kite, they won't just stand there and take it. There's a lot of things SMs can do to enable them to cast a Fear.
     
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    well there are some classes a spiritmaster cant beat too you know, a good cleric , a templar, hell even a sorc with the blind leaps to cancel the fear cast ,
    its really not op, but if not killed first - LETHAL
     
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    LOL. When I read NERFING I expected there will be eyes burning. :D
     
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    I think if a skill that can leave you hopelessly to do nothing against is what I consider op. I can deal with sorcs CC skills by getting aggro by a mob, and breaking it but fear will just remain there, taking senseless amount of damage. They should of designed it as a damage count, after 2.000 damage, fear breaks, not all the way through. It's game breaking.
     
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    Which is really the only reason why I don't complain about sorc CC's is the breaking upon damage.

    Now if anybody can tell me in a realistic Asmo vs Elyos scenario how a chanter can pull through SMs I'd like to hear it. And I'm not saying that sarcastically. The very few times I had chances to try and stun/stumble an SM it gets blocked by Stone Skin and I'm already feared again.
     
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    idk to me it seems appropriate that this class has various fear skills cause 1 burst and its over for them... squish squash
     
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