So when are we nerfing Fear?

Odd, stun or stumble should hit through stone skin, unless there is certain skills that hits through stone skin which I never heard of.

In my case I just used the healing over time pots instead of the instant one and made sure recovery spell was always in use, even if I were near full HP and used the HoT mantra and the other revival one. Still it was hard to beat him since he kept going back and kitting all the time, the fight was well over 8 minutes at most. Extend weapons are useful against them I guess. If it isn't a 1 vs 1, I'd let the SM focus on someone else then attack him (lol).

 

exactly..

plus the class had this skill since the beginning of time.. it makes me wonder why s/he complains about it's op'ness when all it takes is a good ping (and timing) to stop a fear.. unless, s/he were facing against a pro sm (yes there ARE pro sm's, at least in lumiel) or some random fear bombers these past few days that s/he cant help but QQ again..

they're a real pain in the a** i get that but revenge is sweet when their (the newb ones) insta fear's are on cd.. as for those pro ones, well, just pray you're lucky and dont run into one.

 

You're aware that Siel has no Stigma system, right? That means the SMs have EVERY fear skill at their disposal, so even if you stumble them, they can Remove Shock, and fear you. If you get out of one, then silence them, oop they can pot that and put one of their other many fears on you.

You make it sound a lot easier to counter than it really is.

 

Sounds pretty wrong that in order to have a chance they have to be on CD. Also you don't seem to grasp the concept of instant casts. They're kinda, y'know... instant.. Once that goes off it's game over. Very hard to stop a instant cast unless you get incredibly lucky with stumble/stun proc rates.

I'm going to have a Lae Mirage Staff next weekend so that should help immensely. Whenever I use Disorienting Blow on them while they have stone skin up, it never stumbles for me and my stuns on Inescapable Judgement etc never seem to want to proc.

And so I end up having to just buff up and pray I survive the next fear.

 

Yeah it is annoying you got to put so much effort to keep alive when the SM could just be laid back while killing you >.>.

I do remember when I had an event with my chanter and this ******* of an SM just used instant fear on the count and blasted all his dots and put spirit sub on then did /dance while I was dying. I went on a man hunt on the templar for that person after.

P.S to Revo: SMs aren't squishy, only in open zerg pvp where most classes are squishy in that logic.

 

omg siel has none?! that means every other class have EVERY other skills at their disposal to squash those op sm's..

im not making it sound easy, in fact every time i'm facing against an sm i just hope to god he's noob or laggy and alone.. i just dont complain simply because i get my revenge against them every now and then.. you cant just kill everyone ALL the time..

 

exactly my point sir.. thanks for rephrasing.

 

The mistake is that you're comparing SM to other classes. There isn't really any stigmas that can match up to fears. Also, I'm not QQing because I get killed by SMs. I am because I get killed by SMs by being permanently immobilized. I'm not so foolish as to complain simply because I die. I can accept losses.

 

mainly only one fix. try not to get caught and implement stigmas so they dont have chain fears like that.
will be even more fun with 3.0 skill coming

 

Nerfing fear? what do you mean... Spiritmasters fear? nerf what.. the damage? it has NO damage.. nerf what .. the cooldown? it says it is between 12-18 secs ( i think )

but it fears 10 secs the max as far as i've seen..

nerf WHAT dude?

 

...Have you even read the posts in this thread?

 

Read the thread.

 

I agree with this pretty much completely.

The problem is that, it's not easy to kill a good SM, remember that bold and underline. In a 1v1 fight, their multiple options to set you into fear while eating away your life is very difficult to deal with. I haven't been getting on Gamez lately is because I've actually jumped back on retail for the month (just a 1-month subscription to see how things are going now, and now I'm quite far behind, lmao). All I can say is, that fighting a good SM player on retail is more lenient then fighting a good SM player on Gamez.

The reason behind that is not because their are less skilled SM players (in fact their are significantly better SM players on retail) that many high-end SM's on retail don't run around with the best PvP/Jewelry sets all the while having the best stacked MA. Gamez due to their higher-rate nature and the fact that items/gears are more easily accessible allowing players to really reach the full potential of classes, which means, in majority of your PvP fights you'll be taking on the highest end geared SM's.

In Gamez, I have difficulty even trying to land stun skill or pull with my Templar vs an SM, however on retail that frequency is has a much higher success ratio in turn because many don't have the best readily available items all together. So even with my "not so great" MA I can still have success.

Their are more situations then not which I'll have fully buffed myself only to have it removed by an SM, which once against negates my advantage. I mean, I pop on AA, and it gets removed by one single cast? :annoyed: Which will leave me left w/ a huge cd, then eat a Fear, only to be demolished while in the process of not being able to do anything.

The differences here are the very reasons why gaps between classes are actually smaller in retail, however in Gamez the separation in 1v1 is huge due to the above reasons. SM's in 1v1 when played right vs majority of other right classes when played correctly will have the advantage. Their is not one class that can completely negate an SM, and you really have to get lucky in order for it to happen, and with the add on of multiple Fears just puts them over.

I've mentioned this before, but I also blame Official NCSoft, because they made other classes (Melee classes in particular) having to rely upon MA in many of their effective skills thinking it would be a great idea , this also in turn made it far more atrocious to having to deal with Magic users. If they hadn't done that, the fights dealing with SM's would be significantly better with my Templar I can assure anyone that.

 

what.. the cooldown?

 

I like seeing people who can word things so much better than I can, since I really suck at trying to make logical perspectives.

I always thought it was wrong for Aion to have Fear abilities that have 0 drawbacks like diminishing returns (shorter duration every time it's cast on the same target during a certain span of time) or break on damage.

 

I mained sorc and sm on lumiel.

There wasn't a single class i couldnt beat WITHOUT fear as sm. If i would use fear you have exactly 0% chance to win 1v1.

 

isn't? you sure? i think i've mentioned right timing and patience.. god debuff your silence whatsoever..

ugh.. still QQing for me..

he's QQing about the duration..

idk, i just feel sorry for sm's if the devs nerf the duration of it..

 

Still insisting on being ignorant about exactly what message I'm trying to get across.

 

You don't understand that there is only so much you can do to prevent Fear, and when you run out of means to do so, they still have 2 or 3 more spells to fear you with.

 

Yes its a QQ thread really.. you know what.. siel has full stigma.. sm has all the stigmas as long as YOU have them!

Good sm's know how to bind..slow the target debuff him and FEAR the target.. the duration is already lower than it should..

+ fear shriek needs around 2 seconds to cast...

I will wait for your post to say to a moderator to CLOSE this thread because this is useless.. just useless ! and nothing will get nerfed.. deal with it!


(don't even think to reply with quote and your answer : no i am not QQing because thats what you do! )