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Kinah shortage - Economic meltdown!!

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by kimoralii, Mar 6, 2012.

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  1. kimoralii

    kimoralii Proficient

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    Just got back to Gamez a month ago and saw some changes that makes it impossible to make enough kinah to play the game enjoyably.

    Some factors:
    >> VOTING - you dont get the 500k kinah promised with each vote anymore.
    >> Theres a limit on how much you can sell to NPCs!!! Come on people - please tell us why? I cant even sell the loot that I got from killing mobs once i hit the limit and it applies to ALL characters on your account!
    >> crafting and making scrolls and potions is not worth it anymore.
    >> You cant sell Besh or Stormwings items if you are not VIP.
    >> You can only sell anuhart & Tahabata items- but Dark Poeta is now no longer being done since its too hard to get to Taha.


    So what does this do:??
    >> it makes it hard for people playing to do things like craft, learning crafting and making items, weapons, and armors
    >> we cant buy items we need like potions, scrolls, etc.


    Please I appeal to the powers that be that you make some changes so that we can keep Gamez up on top. Just leave it the way it used to be.
    >> voters get kinah and being able to sell all your junk to NPCs without any cap

    - evidence
    >> people are selling stormwings, besh and other gear for as low as 100m-400m!
    >> no one can buy these items since everyone is low on kinah
    >> people are desparate and selling stuff for very low prices just so they can have some kinah
     
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  2. Fantaros

    Fantaros Banned Forum Legend

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    since when kinah brings happiness?

    nooo.. abg gives happines.. if you want something go farm it dont buy it from broker :D
     
  3. Ephaelion

    Ephaelion Proficient

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    Agreed on that.

    Even though Kinah is not really the best help out there, i noticed that too.

    It would be great if at least BT stuff could be sold without needing a VIP account.
     
  4. Saha25

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    don't be lazy craft them for yourself... not wait someone craft and sell in broker lol
     
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  5. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    dont really like the apocalyptic thread title though :p but yea they r restricting the server to player-player trades by killing the npc shop method with a lame kinah cap
     
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  6. Fantaros

    Fantaros Banned Forum Legend

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    I have a name niggah
     
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  7. Ephaelion

    Ephaelion Proficient

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    I know Fantanigga but it was not only you nigga, so i just said "guys", but if you prefer i could say "niggas". =D
     
  8. tempo22

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    Actually, i got the point, i started playing with my gf here 1 month ago only. We have both around 2b on our main char. Without the VIP title.

    We didn't had any problems to get kinahs and actually kinah don't worth anything if you plan on buying interesting stuff.
    You can't sell SW but you can extract it still and sell enchies and as i said. there is other way to make kinah. let's say making a full BT with a random team take about 1hours (if you are lucky with group). If you spend a little more time you can level a char to 55 making roughly 1b kinah ( selling plats and quest rewards )

    I'm not saying it's actually easy to make kinah, i'm saying you have think and work a bit. If kinah were that easy to make you would still not be able to buy pots or scrolls with it because people wouldn't trade pots and scrolls for kinah.
     
  9. BetaMax

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    now, who wants to put scrolls in npc.























    im running low thats why i posted that ^_^ teeheehee
     
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  10. zakku44

    zakku44 Annoying Zergling

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    whats the fair price for 100pcs?
    i have alot and desperately need kinah (12m left and i need to buy some aether at npc)
    siel btw ^^
     
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  11. Incognito44

    Incognito44 Getting there

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    I think some people don't read what they write. Selling platinum medals is really good idea to earn kinah as new player? If you didn't notice it's untradable like tokens, insignias and other crap worth something on Gamez so again VIP is needed. I'm playing here for 2 weeks, tbh only weekends. Now I have few parts of Besh, SW and 2 Tahas without doing any run. My friend says that I can sell every shit for 50kk+ xd. My example shows that it's not that hard to make money, but I still can't understand why there is a daily kinah limit. Wtf? 10kk when we have prices like 1b? What if have some time and want to earn money by farming? No, go PvP and die one-shoted by veterans/donators. Also I didn't notice any 10min trade time on instance items which again makes game designed for VIPs. I understand that they paid and deserve something from it but I somehow can't imagine them crying that 10min temporary trade for everyone is unfair. It will just help other players to gear up their friends or other chars. God, bosses don't drop ABG, it's just some pve thingies ;o
     
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  12. zakku44

    zakku44 Annoying Zergling

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    wonder why anuhart is still at the website voteshop ;)
    its so fcking OP
     
  13. kimoralii

    kimoralii Proficient

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    Thanks for the replies. Im not a lazy player:
    As for my own methods of making kinah - I got toons to make my own scrolls, pots and everything I need and tried to sell them but no one seems to be buying. I'll try selling again and see if anyone buys.

    I tried to level up my toons weapon crafting so I could sell some nice remodels... and made a big boo boo...

    It seems that the Wise Dragon King bow is not crafted through weapons crafting but through handicrafting!! Who would have known a bow is not a weapon but a accessory of some sort!?! So I blew almost a billion leveling up weapons crafting. Maybe Ill just make a nice great sword or polearm through that....

    I also bought several besh and SW items to complete several sets I had since I had lots of kinah and bad luck with parties going into besh... (parties waiting for hours, noobs rushing in dying, etc.. etc..)

    So from having more than 5 billion now I have like 20 million to each character and we all know that is like being bankrupt.


    Oh and I do work in real life so I dont have the pleasure of crafting all day. I craft and make potions while I am cleaning up, cooking and doing things around the house. So yeah... there ya go. It was all due to the new changes, not being patient to get SW and besh items but just buying them, and all the reasons stated above.

    ^.^ oh well, we'll get out of this "economic crisis" - sorry if the title is a bit apocalyptic.

     
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  14. Incognito44

    Incognito44 Getting there

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    Lol, bows and staffs always were a part of handi, maybe cause it's made of wood. You don't craft it with a hammer ;D. Better plan before you do something. Aiondatabase can help you. Magic handicrafter's word : Glasses ;)
     
  15. sheevan

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    The kinah limit for selling junkies was a bullshit in the retail server... here in a high rate server... well worst...

    The non-vip status is a lot worst than you are describing: non-vip can't neither trade blue Anurati neck for example, neither the UT/LUT gear or weapons and a lot of others stuffs.
    For my understanding there are also some Ethernal crafted items that you can't sell without vip. so i wouldn't find myself in the situation tu craft the bow and be not allow to sell or trade...

    And to be honest 1500 credit (10,5 €) a month for vip, actually, doesn't worth.
    Maybe it's just a my opinion, but i noticed that there are less ppl connected to gamez last days.

    I tried the free aion, ofc it's not free at all, but not different from gamez: (free to play = pay to play) and i was quite surprised how fast you can get the Noble coliseum equip: It's about one week / piece. (and here they give you only for special shop...)
    I met my old legionmates... and even the worst ones are all with a coliseum set... that is not so bad compared with ABG.
    So the the new aion let you level up to 55 in 2 weeks, let you equip with full ethernal lv.55 in less than 2 month... and the monthly gold subsciption is chaeper than the vip status...

    Gamez has some nice features, but if the community leaves cause they find the retail more enjoyable and they can't touch at all the advantages to play in an high rate server, the poor donators will find themselves alones.
    I understand that admins don't give a shit about non vip members, cause they (normally) don't donate (cause they prefer buy ABG), but the community is formed by vip and non vips, and vips need undergeared non-vip to kill, or just new players. But if new players are disappointed soon... the community decrease.

    So i'm completely off topic... sorry
     
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  16. awillkent

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    Keep it going! Down with the kinah limit!!!!!!
     
  17. dmaxcustom

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    This is really interesting... this is a real factor/data of why this server is going nowhere.

    Hope some bigshot read this...
     
  18. Fantaros

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    sir kinah please :(


    damn i am out of kinah too.. seriusly..
     
  19. D3adMan

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    U can buy vip with Credits u make from vote but yeah is something wrong with kinah because the new kinah from votes don't come anymore and kinah farm(not selling to broker) is very rare.
     
  20. Incognito44

    Incognito44 Getting there

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    Yeah, VIP can be bought with vote points and that's cool, but I think new players will rather buy some armor/weapon to not be raped with one skill.
     
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