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Whoever uses SM needs to watch this video

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by sdjkpas, Apr 12, 2012.

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  1. Coach1234

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    Yea, to 5 seconds.

    It isn't going to stop them from fearlocking.

    I just don't get why they don't treat fear like any other status ailment and allow for pottage or remove shock.



    Epic.
     
  2. Jessica

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    this post makes me go gagagaga.

    Why does everybody compare retail here. So if you played retail.. you're a pro here? In gamez anyone who has 10% silence godstone is a pro.
     
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    he didnt say he requires it he just said he uses it:there's a differance. Telling a sm to not use fear is like telling glads not to kd , temps not to pull/AA , sorc not to burst/cc , clers not to heal and etc....Its not his fault for using it its NCsoft's fault for not balancing it right.Currently with the exception to warrior classes (glad and temp for the simple-minded) fear is the only differance between losing and winning as an SM.a sorc would simpy flame cage>silence>aether you to death (flame cage to remove the 1 resist buff) and a cler would just outheal your dps and remove the dots hence making you useless.A good balance would be to reduce all fears to 1-3 sec each (pvp only) and add 1k macc to pets so they are actualy usefull for something besides spirit sub(and earth spirit slacks).But oh well its not like somebody is gonna change it , it hasnt been touched for 2 years so why would they
     
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    Even still I find 5 seconds too long in a pvp situation. It's like paralyzing a target and letting you get free hits. Fear > erosion > magic implosion > shackle of vuln > silence/bind and you're already done with only 3 seconds in.

    [video=youtube;hzZQhdISDcU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzZQhdISDcU[/video]
    Good thing most don't know how to fight without having at least the full 25-30 seconds I get feared for ._.
    That's why i always have a cleric in Inggison within a 100m radius \o/
     
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    Well I cant comment on Temp as I had no problem dealing with them. As for Glads, I say the skilled one gets to pawn SM's first.

    Then you seriously need the basics of this game. Even me having 2.2 MA still having problems with Glads and Temp in Chain Set slotted with full MR.
     
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    well gagagaga all you want : point of people saying they played retail is that there you have enough time to learn most skills right (1 lvl per day after lv40 and around a month and a half from 1-50/55).We are talking about SKILL here not rng if you want feel free to start thread x9000+ on silence rate im sure alente and carl are going to fix it in a matter of minutes right ?

    @konichi:having an entire set worth 200$ (abg ofc) for a class that you might not encounter aint a valid solution , AND please provide a video of a glad raping an sm with all skills and cds allowed and no silence involved (both gotta at least understand their class)
     
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    1st Not everyone can afford another abg chain set to stack MR on it, also not everyone plays glad temp or cleric which are capable of wearing Chain. Therefore that statement has been burned to ashes and is no longer valid.

    2nd Only because an individual has the inability to kill an SM does not automatically qualify them to be a poor player or a poor player at his class. To be honest and in my opinion SM's were designed to create some form of difficulty in pvp seeing as to how SM's do have fear and tend to use every fear possible. You statements states that (in my own words) that if someone is unable to defeat an SM than that makes them a bad player. My answer to this is .. its false If you cant kill an SM then you cant kill an SM. I've played an SM and was already killing abg geared players while in Besh gear without the use of Fear and to be honest no melee really stands a chance vs an SM unless its a sin (in my opinion) due to the amount of kitting ability's they have at their disposal.

    3rd, MR gets overrun by MA since almost every SM roles MA now so MR is pretty much useless vs a full abg MA sm ..

    4th You play a cleric so you really can't fathom over why people find it annoying since you will rarely ever get feared, unless vs a full MA SM
     
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    lol. Insta fear x2.
     
  9. Jessica

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    I totally disagree. I get feared more than I ever on my cleric, instant fears all the time so I fail to heal my group.
     
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    5th fear and ignite aether/magic implosion tend to ignore MR eitherway or im just having bad luck with 2k+ M.acc pinkies....


    @sin part: huh kiting a ranged with a melee ? focused evasion+aethertwisting seems more reasonable since most sms just bash at fear within the first few seconds without looking at enemy buffs
     
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    Cleric's got it easy rofl. Dispel, and all a sms dps is gone XD
    Not only that but they can keep them rooted and themselves unslowed so they can glide fear.
     
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    edited my post stating if they have full MA which is pretty much every SM on elyos side q.q and prob goes the same for Asmo side but its been a while since i've fought an asmo SM
     
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    I really am not trying to bust up my ego or anything, but I am a rather skilled glad, and same with coach. Please articulate to me, in the OP's video, how he was expected to fight back. In what way would he have been able to deal any damage or do anything to stop what happened to him? I can survive zergs more then I can survive SMs. How can I pawn an SM if I can't even touch them before they 30 second lock me? Also Coach is full MR chain with glasses and if I'm not mistaken slotted MR into his weapon too, so I think he knows what MR is and how well it works.
     
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    There is still Masta or other sets that gives better MR bonuses.

    I was obviously talking to him a glad and not to every other classes out there. The fact is I the two of us were banding words with each other since he's a glad I'm an SM.

    Slotting MA does not mean a 100% hit on the skills. I do actually miss a lot on MR slotted players.

    Well I'm sure he was not using MR set at all (OP's video). Besides it was not a fair fight in the first place. No idea how Coach does not resist skills but on me being an SM for quite sometime and having 2.1+ MA I still see people resist my spells and glad and temps at that.
     
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    by kitting i was implying SM's not sin's didnt make that clear did i >.< q.q
     
  16. Jessica

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    1level per day? LoL learn about your skills... right :p you mean using it against NPCs. Yes okay I admit now you are a pro.

    Ask sweetnoms about our fights, that was like months ago though.
     
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    Its Safe to say the general rule of thump here is that SM's Fear is really annoying and OP ... and its duration has been reduced on retail but doubt that will make much of a difference since they also added some new slowing/kitting ability's for SM's and they didn't remove at least one of the fears that they have .. woulda been nice if they removed the fear from RS but thats just my personal opinion
     
  18. Jessica

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    thats bug abusing :p
    A good cleric can only be killed by SMs with fear IMO or insane godstone procs.
     
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    oh that makes more sense.Forgot who said the thing about "sm was designed to be a support class" but the way i see it the sm was designed to be a pve grinder class: pets are useless in pvp and the sm relies on them to keep the agro but everyone just ignores the poor pokemon-shaped beings and just goes for the annoying scroll-hater.its a SPIRITmaster not fearoverlord but they failed at that part as it seems.Again:having a mres set isnt a solution since we are talking about skill and counterclassing , seems weird for them to make the only way to counter sms with just rng gear...

    oh and jc so you're saying retail doesnt make you a pro but you hurr durr duels with boole does that instead? nice logic.And no not npcs who said you cant pvp before 55 thats the whole point of rifting and its lvl caps...

    Oh gliding fear is as much bug abuse as climbing a mountain to kisk or rooting someone in the air to crash him (a stat removed in 1.5 due to opness [water spirit one shots])
     
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    Then players should not be blamed on that nor those who chose to play SM or those who uses fear. These anger should be directed at NCSOFT.
     
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