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To the ones whom have control over the Gamez Aion Shop prices

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by TrueSeph, Jul 11, 2012.

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  1. TrueSeph

    TrueSeph Proficient

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    Can I say something to Carl, Alente and the rest of the people whom have authority to modify/change the credit shop items. You people make me sick to my stomach.

    You of all people stated that these new sets wouldn't be out for awhile, and yet it only took about a month. I know you've all lied in the past before, and I'm sure everyone fully remembers the "We won't be bringing out WoC Lvl 2" because that then prompted many others, including myself into obtaining WoC Lvl 1, only to find out a few months later that the WoC Lvl 2 would be included within the special shops.

    You've just recently posted up ACD momentarily and worst of all, for a staggering 3k credits. Which leaves me with nothing else but to call it like it is now, for you the people whom have access to the price modifications at the credit shop are greedy and completely selfish moderators (I'm speaking to the ones whom have control or say in the pricing on this server).

    The prices for EAC were already $150 for a full set, but with the 3k credit statement, the new ACD are now $180 which without question is a monopolization of the very community that helps this server thrive. I had already despised the $25 pricing , but now with the $30 title for the ACD, you'll also put a hurt upon the in-game community economy which was already crippled by the introduction of the highly priced ECD sets already.

    I would like to state to everyone who does read this, and although many of you are well enough of this, and some may not, it needs to be heard and continuously repeated. The admins whom have real control over this server are simply all about leeching as much money as possible, without ever properly trying to give back to the community. All of these high-astronomical prices and yet the updates to fixing the servers are slow as a snail with nothing but excuses thrown on top of them.

    Considering with the $180 pricing, if you got just six people to buy full sets, you would've made over $1000 dollars (I'm probably sure more then six people made purchases when it was available), which could've contributed to upgrading the system in which the server is run on, or to help in improving the bugs that are now current within the 3.0 version.

    All I see are high priced items, with no real explanations as to why, and the obvious answer is written perfectly into the wall. Simply put, you're all taking advantage of the community with your greed, lies and deceit. I don't buy it for one second that you people feel sorry for putting the price up for $30 a piece, I simply don't anymore.

    Anyone else within the community whom somehow does believe what anyone of you say now are simply gullible and foolish to say the least. I enjoy this server, and now have only decided to come back and play more of Gamez is because of my friends, however I've noticed a decline of players since when I last played (which was over a year ago), and the biggest reason I found out is mainly because of the people whom have control over this server.

    There is absolutely no justification for $30 for a single piece from a six piece set. I'm hoping to get a reply but as always with those who would question the higher ups, I'll probably have it unanswered which is another thing most of the higher ups here do frequently considering when you simply look at how many of the good ideas within the suggestion threads fall upon deaf ears.

    For the community, Please stop paying for these items already, you are killing the server and its community by supporting Carl and the rest of his admins whom have control over the pricing. It's also because of you people from the community whom will throw money at them that they'll continue this trend as well.
     
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  2. TheTrueOne

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  3. konichi

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    Okay I understand your sentiment but your whine about the pricing totally doesn't make sense to me. It's not like they are forcing the players to buy these items, you can always play like the majority of the players here where we haven't spent a single penny for this game.

    The only thing that has affected the economy was their negligence of implementing some stuffs being bugged and get abused by the players so as their failure to trace back duped items (before) which is mainly the reason why there is a flood of Cheap ABG's that accounts only for 2.5k credits a set. No question on that and I think they know too well about this and tried to move on.

    The pricing isn't so bad. Right now for less than a month I can buy a part of probably EAC or given few more days an ACD. The timing is good as well since these items should be available as of this update of the game.

    I guess we should just learn to move on and adapt to changes as most games do change so as things in real life.
     
  4. TrueSeph

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    I'm not surprised here.

    Firstly $25 for a piece is A LOT, and $30 is even worst, and highly, highly overpriced period. So you buy one every month if you will. That pricing alone was more then the cost to play Legitimate Aion for One Month when it used to be P2P in fact $30 dollars would've given you 2 months of play on there and it is also more then half the price I pay for my net connection per month. Also it's not whining, there is glaringly no justification for the overpriced items and more over, when none of the money earned is made to consistently improve the server.

    $150 was terrible to begin with, but $180 dollars a set is silly and completely laughable.
     
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  6. JenniSama

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    I honestly don't think the people in charge have a grasp over money value, because of all of the income that this server is making with how many people that donate (even if it's $15 or $10 per person, numbers add up).
    Greed is a natural instinct to people who are beginning to come onto a control of a large amount of money..
     
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    I don't know where you are trying to get at with that "I'm not surprised" thing. But if it is exactly what I'm thinking then no I'm not sucking up with the "ups" regarding my Application. I actually want it deleted. :p

    Your point on saying that these donations doesn't really reflect the state of gamez right now, I totally agree on you with that. Still, I don't get the logic on whining about the price when someone else know that it's OP and still willing to buy one. That totally doesn't make sense when there's another option where you don't have to spend anything at all to acquire the items. These items are meant to be instant and is already there the moment you buy it. Unlike retail you actually have to spend sleepless nights and a lot of time to even get a single part of it. Not to mention NC-Coins for amulet to increase loot, xp etc.
     
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    Developer makes game and charges for it.
    Hackers break the code and free emulator is released.
    Script kiddies use emulator to release a private server of the game.
    Script kiddies decide to monetize a stolen product with a free emulator.
    Developer makes game free to play.
    Players playing a stolen game complain about the business practices of the script kiddies that are exploiting their community with a product they have stolen.

    This is the story of Gamez Aion. No one can play holier-than-thou here.
     
  9. Isin

    Isin Zerg me plox Forum Legend

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    Guess what though. Nothin u can do now. Tbh this thread will be deleted or closed most likely deleted
     
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    There are people who are as you and i would call it rich. If they want and they can afford then its their choice to donate. Truth is that nobody is forcing us to donate for those shiny items,i know..the way it was released,ninja released and in such a high price,its only normal to think that there are almost no people who just randomly have 15k credits lying around in their accounts from voting, hence people believe that it was released for 1 and only reason,donation money profit :p Personally,i can donate,but i will never do it,why? Because im smart enough to buy those items in game through trading,the game has thrill that way and i never get bored of doing it while others spend money for the same thing. Personally,i understand your point and i agree that 150 dollars is a really big amount of money for a virtual item,thats actually more than a monthly salary in some countries,and majority of the players,mostly asians,cant afford to donate and thats why they multivote and try to scam people and get on my nerves everytime im in game. Maybe if the donation prices were lower,we'd see less scammers and less fake websites trying to rob people's accounts,less duped items all over the server,and so on..im just saying,if it was cheaper,a simple stundent from the xxx country could donate for the item instead of creating a website and try to scam our accounts. But seriously,150 bucks :/ only a grown up with a job living in some decent country can donate for that,or as an exception,few rich kids.

    And lets not forget,the advantage of donating is the VIP tag in forums and also that you get your item quickly and straight without hassle. Those are important things for some people.

    So yea,if you want then dont donate,nobody is forcing you. And kudos for the thread =D Lets wait for some staff to reply,most likely Alente or carl,but i doubt it.. But then again,you never know.
     
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    You should be happy, post, imagine the price in another currency as "Brazilian currency" of $ 180 = R$ 400 real. tense >.<
     
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    That is what is wrong with the mentality of some people, and you included.

    The whole "Well if you don't want to donate, then fine" mentality is the worst excuse and statement I've read over and over.

    You do realize that with proper pricing, meaning reasonable pricing, that Carl and co. would actually get more people to donate, and more importantly that on the long term effect would produce higher-value of earning results all together. Not to mention, at such high prices, you destroy the economy of the server, just look at how much it cost to obtain a full EAC through trade, and now look at how much it cost to trade for an ACD. It's a highway robbery everywhere you try to look at it.

    Nobody is forcing people to donate (the same lame excuse and over noted gesture might I add), however when you lie (We won't be having ACD anytime soon, yet they push it out in less then a month after introducing EAC to simply scam players into buying the first sets to the current ones), also while shooting up the prices, then you do nothing to consistently help build or improve upon the server all the while taking more money from the very community that helps contribute putting $$$ into your pockets, then it's a kick in the face to community itself.

    However for you, there is nothing wrong with the entire situation. Yes, I'm glad there are those who don't agree with you.
     
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    Yeah the prices are kind of sucky but then again no is making you buy anything. The server itself is free and you can still be competitive without the latest and greatest gear, especially when compared to private servers such as WoW where you can sign on, drop 200 bucks and then get a max level char with special gear that basically makes you a god that can one shot anyone and everyone except for those others who dropped 200+ dollars for the latest gear.

    Also you can still vote and if you don't like it don't buy it. If enough people stop donating and buying the stuff then eventually carl will have to drop the prices. Supply and demand, and it's how many people run their businesses including me and this is no different. Sellers will price their inventory as high as they can to where they can still make sales. You can make threads and complaints all you want but you won't have any real effect until you speak with your wallet.
     
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    Actually stop living in your fairy tale world about getting everything the way you want it to. I'm sorry but "No one is forcing anyone to do anything if you don't want to" is the most practical and realistic view that people normally have. If it is getting cliche and redundant that's because this exact statement is something that don't get into players head. It's a matter of choice and in the most basic sense the product of "Common Sense" that somehow players fails to have.

    That cheaper = more donation is nothing but a myth and a theory coming out of nowhere. Economy. LOL. The only thing affected so far when we are talking about the economy still goes back to ABG's. Which is obviously outdated coupled with duping of it before.

    You do realize I did agree on some point of yours earlier 'bout getting donations which that does not reflect back to the improvement of the server, so you saying "I did not see nothing wrong in this is situation" is an exaggeration and fallacious. Unfortunately I am not glad at all that there are people who thinks like you.

    Just to add. If the game is getting into you and is too much to handle then seriously go out and have some breath of fresh air. It's not worth whining for especially if you receive such a bad service.
     
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    just remember you are playing on a private server not retail. considering the comparison between a private server and a retail, just by patient voting you can obtain the items you want not like in retail where you have to spend much longer time and also working hard to have that item.
     
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    180$ is 8,000 philippine peso :p beat that
     
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    And for those who can't/don't donate? I'd say it'd probably take at least 2 months to gather that many credits because voting everyday (if you remember, twice if you engrave it into your brain) only provides you with 50 credits, and to get 2.5k - 3k?

    If you dont spend the money, youre practically an ant so there's no point in trying to get end game gear in 3 months when people can get it in 10 minutes and 4 hit you. What do you do in that ridiculously long period of time? Beshmundir items dont do crap against ABG geared players, let alone EAC or ACD.

    People have the money, but they don't spend it because the current state of the server is so horrid, you wonder if its even worth killing a lvl 60 with a scabrous set. like wowwwwwww, how much satisfaction do you gain from that? do you want a sticker for that achievement?
    What they witness everyday are people buying ABG/EAC/ACD items and killing others without hesitation while a large portion of the community around them are dying to get even a piece of anuhart or stormwing.

    Only questionnaires provide a high value of medals and to get enough for a set, you'll have to make at least 10 characters i imagine and how is that even possible when you cant even level 1 character? Dont say mentoring because not everyone offers a 20-40minute job like that.

    Oh right, and a set requires AP right? yeahh ... no im not gonna repeat myself.

    omg so offtopic shoot me please

    On topic. prices for 1 piece are sorry what, $25 - $30. ONE PIECE. Thats like your wage for 2 hours IF you have a proper job. So you are literally working for your armor but it's "working" interpreted in a different way.
    Not even a teen's typical weekly allowance money can get them a fine geared character lol
     
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    I really dont care about the price what pisses me off is when they will tell u that it will not be implemented soon so players will buy EAC then suddenly after 1 month they will put it..
     
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    look at Merarar (Badrobot) the dude is uber rich and haven't donated a single dime, compared with me that I've donated for everything I have and he is still richer than I am. A retail veteran on ABG will destroy any gamez noob on ACD, trust me I've seen it. My brother plays this server and is playing on abg and he can rock EAC and ACD anytime.
     
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    This thread is fantastic. I'm usually the one engaged in the bickering so it's nice to see other people do it, and especially while maintaining fairly good grammar. When I do it, I'm the only one who does it in something that resembles an actual language. You guys are great. Keep it up.
     
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