Balancing PvP

I was talking to some Gamez veterans on vent and we all agreed in a few things they need to remove to balance the PvP in Gamez Aion. First of all, the removal of the wings of the circle level 2, I don't have to explain this, its pure imba. The removal of 10% god stones. Every single time, 3 out of 5 times the first hit lands a 10% blind/silence, its something that affects the PvP depending on a god stone proc and not skill, which is again, imbalanced. And this is how this 3 simple things would majorly fix our open world PvP problems. Another thing is the zergs, if we had dredgion working we wouldn't have this ping pong zerg all over world pvp.

/discuss

 

i agree on the godstone part. that is y i roll flat out full Mress so i can resist debuffs + i get less silenced/blind, That way i don't get CC'd easily >.>. There are time's that i really want to go offensive build, i can't because it's usually the 10/10 godstones that mess me over.

 

Well you know me.

Sorc nukes and SM fears.

WoC 2 isn't bad unless the player has a low ping. Godstones never should have been implemented.

 

Well for the WoC 2 all it really is is having to put on an attack speed scroll or not. Nothing really too fanciful about it. But i do agree on the godstones because as you said there's a good 90% chance that the first hit will get you silence/blided whatever. Especially assassins, and since they use 2 weapons, its like 20% if you want think about it that way.

 

I agree with the idea of godstones. Dude , theyr are just ****ing op mainly in zerg.So yep , i'd wished them 2 never been created and also i'd like to change the rate of proc's to lower.

 

I think we all know that WoC and 10% godstones ruin gamez. There are dozens of threads suggesting that we remove them.

I have yet to see 1 that gives a realistic suggestion on how that removal would be done.

 

first and second made money to the server.

i get the same attack speed with woc1+title like a would with woc2
if they remove woc2 many people that bought them or got them will rage

silence/blind 5% will also as powerful as the 10% since they proc a lot

last time they implemented Dregion people where crying because balaur were taking the forts too easy and they had no place to do the fort vs zerg which keeps many zergers away from the soloers

 

I totally agree with this perhaps a removal is not needed however? If possible remove attack speed of second condition and add strike resist since they have so little compared to other wings? And halfing the godstones power would do a lot of good i think.

 

Dredgion is a spaceship PvEvP where you fight balaur and fight the opposite faction, what forts are you talking about?

 

That two things making lot of money for them,so...forget it

 

Woc2 are a rare occurrence in the shop...and i personally would vote 10 days before i would donate 10 dollars for one godstone.

 

I know what it is. When they enabled it you were still in army and gamez faced problems with that because balaurs used to take the forts in ingisson,gelk and reshata.
No one used to go to dregion and people where zerging the exits of silentera canion in gelk and ingisson which made the pvp even worst.

Correct me if i am wrong

 

feel bro, as a sorc it sucks when a gladi hits u 2 times and u die cuz both of the hits gave u silence *----*

 

Now that should do.

 

well you're right I wasn't here by that time, but I can assure you that there will be enough time to dredge and take forts too, I mean its how it goes on retail it shouldn't be impossible all we need is people willing to spend their time doing it man.

 

i think Wocl2 is just bisness to the server, win a lot of money selling it on shop events, Wocl2 is a huge adventage but if u have a good ping is better than have Wocl2, melee class w 400-500 pings wearing wocl2 or not sucks, so at least WocL2 is just a strategy to get money, they cant remove it, coz if u are getting a lot of money from them do u think u want to remove it? also remove this wings can gives serius consequences on the economy inside the game. (think about that)

about godstones i guess i have 2 diff comments about this, first : yeah its ok about remove it coz ruin the pvp, now Sins gives like 50%+ silence every hit w oath of accuracy. yea that ruins the pvp, but on my second comment i have to say this is necessary to stop partys organized and raids of alliances, if they cannot be silence easily or affected by any altered magic state easily, so this alliance w 2+ cleric and chanters will become OP, unstoppable, this going to ruin more the pvp than the first comment.
at least the game is already balanced.

 

oh, bro I know I wasn't around neither Tupesadilla and most of my former legion members from Union latina were around, but we can still play dredgion and keep the forts, its not like we're the only asmos out there. In retail people do it almost all the time, what makes you think we can't?

and no you're not wrong, but we should work as a whole faction to get better pvp and this are just simple soluitions, anyways thanks for your reply I appreciate seriousy

 

Economy already sucks i dont think removing the wings could make it worse

 

When your class is dual-wielding, the godstone's percentage on the off-hand gets cut to half (ie: if the godstone on your off-hand weapon is 10%, it's actually just going to be 5% since it's on the off-hand slot).

@topic

You're forgetting to mention a few things regarding the balance of PvP here if it is to compared to NA retail.

In Gamez Aion, you have 80% of the players having 300ms or above ping while in retail you have 80% (if not, more) of the players having 150ms or below ping. In this case, Wings of the Circle L2 is just like making up for the players who have 300ms or above ping for the lack of having a decent ping. It's no ones fault that players live to whichever place they do or their ISP has a poor service but we're talking about balance here, aren't we?

In Gamez Aion, getting gear is really easy while in retail it's not. A mage / scout class could PvP A LOT EASIER with PvE armors as long as they have PvP accessories and weapon(s). A warrior / priest class could also PvP with the same exact gear I mentioned but it's A LOT HARDER for them, generally speaking, that is. Now, if we are to look at the bigger picture having every single class with the end-game gear, which class do you think have it the the easiest? I'll leave it for you guys to decide but majority of us will probably come up with the same result or two. Oh, and don't say there are 10% godstones, because EVERY SINGLE CLASS suffers on this when they're being zerged / ganked. The same goes for Wings of the Circle, every class gets a benefit off it, it's just a matter of who gets the most benefit off it. In the end, a two digit ping tops Wings of the Circle very easily which like I said, most of the Gamez player don't have.

As for the zergs, it's a player base problem. Sure the management could do something about it to make it a bit more bearable but the end it is and will always be a player base problem.

Most of us are asking for an access to Eye of Tiaramanta but why can't we PvP in Tiamaranta disputed zones while waiting for the final decision on how are we going to access Eye of Tiamaranta? Players are just too lazy or unmotivated to move the PvP to other places other than the ones they're used to which proves what I said earlier that in the end, it's a player base problem.

 

Can i suggest addition or increase in pvp defense by lets say another 25% on every character so that people wont die in like 2 to 3 hits by gladiator, 1 or 2 magic attacks from sorcerer. This will make pvp last longer and doesn't affect much on the pve damage ( on monsters etc ) instead of changing or complaining godstone proc percentage and attack speed problem which ends you in few seconds.