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Clerics too OP?

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by sadnessblues, Dec 24, 2012.

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  1. sadnessblues

    sadnessblues Proficient

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    its only me think that clerics are too OP?tons of heal,low cd servant,tons magic dmg skills,way too much walk around and wait enemy to die

    Any opinion?
     
  2. Suhosin

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    idk, any class can be op if played right in my oppinion :3
     
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    if ur good player... all job can be OP....
     
  4. Shiyori

    Shiyori 230-350 ms :/

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    i''m not complaining about it but you forgot the 5k? 10k? absorb shields :D
     
  5. sadnessblues

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    partially agree,got the cleric with 10%hp left,suddenly 100%hp recovery agn,boom i died
     
  6. regiix3

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    Well if you have all stigmas, sure, but it's necessary. You're up against even more OP classes with ALL stigmas.
    They're probably one of the harder classes to play with stigma though; You're forced to either have a support or DPS build.
     
  7. vesiinabox

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    -.- really? Clerics have been dealt a bit of a blow this update with the new manastones...and with the fix of their toggles as well. If you go MR cleric simply cant kill you before he runs out of mana and if they go MA they don't have enough CC to survive. Oh and if they go block you get *******ly silenced..the game forces you to go MR build for cleric. The shield you speak of have long cds 5 and 10 mins nothing op about them. Clerics have to be in the top gear to be dangerous especially now with the new manastones....oh but yes once they are in said gear very hard to kill. The one thing that really bugs me about playing this class is to hit most people I have to spend large amounts of time making a staff MA specially so that i can use storm of aion so that i can hit with my other skills other classes have most of their weapons handed to them while we get to spend large amounts of time either farming bosses(tartar) or doing quests (kahrun) or seemingly ******* crafting (50+ for NHDED staff) just so that we can land skills on those that use MR and thats a lota people.
     
  8. Puddles

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    Not really, cleric is actually for me at least easier on Stigma system.

    The choice isn't really that bad either, considering your main heals are given to you and you can equip Flash of Recovery (30sec cd). Healing Light and Light of Recovery both have low CD's, and are given upon leveling anyway. The choice on being DPS or Healing even. With 12 stigma slots you can do quite the amazing things even if you go all one tree.

    However, the difference between being a healing cleric vs one with more of the dps skills? Heal built clerics will rely more on having a group to support. They CAN Kill, but it is effectually much slower than not.

    Hybrid, does work well for all situations but it can be tricky to know what skills to use when and or which to put on for stigmas. Some are more clear than others along with the fact that they have so many options when it comes to 'supplementary' skills such as Blinding Light, Noble Grace, the new one I forget the name of (heals @ 50% hp or lower).

    Shields, while they have a longer CD as stated above me here. If used properly there is no real issue with them as they are mainly used to get away from a bad situation. Immortal Veil and Shroud (8k / 10k) absorbs break relatively fast depending on who your facing if they realize not to spam skills on you.

    The main issue of playing a solo cleric and being OP with it is to know what skills to use in what situations, to have a good silence staff (as your not going to really have any MA if you run up into a MR build.) The benefit right now however of playing a DPS cleric would be the MB/MA Manastones, which are rather amazing for that type. Even a hybrid would be given justice with it.

    Then, you have to think about all the silence procs, and or skills depending on which class your facing. Do you use a ghp to get rid of it and root them, then move oor, use los blockers or do you nuke them down with what skills you have in general.

    Along with the fact that the class itself almost requires a MA Staff in order to hit most players who stack MR.

    Even with all Stigmas clerics aren't over-powered. It just gives them access to everything and yet the still needing to know what to do when with what skills comes into play.
     
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    Agreed ..The most aggravating thing about cleric is the fact that with new armors coming out we continue to have to stack MR because other classes are increasing their MA therefore we cannot afford to keep same MR and expect to still be resisting. While their resist increases however our MA stays the same and I find myself being resisted more and more often yet cannot afford to loose my resist...so even as a full stigma cleric in all the newest gears and stones cannot fight nearly as many people as I once could. On a side note I believe unless its changed the shields are 5k and 10k o.0 not 8k and Immortal shroud is perfect for screwing over sorcs who let you get a single skill in on their combo it pretty much makes for an instant win...now if u want to talk a favored class this recent update lets talk glads lolz..
     
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    Clerics are OP in siel lol..~~ is why you need stigma system for balance..Especially sorcs...

    <---Still doesnt understand why people play siel~~
     
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  11. cav104

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    I agree with this one that's my idol
     
  12. vesiinabox

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    So you don't play siel? How can you know that clerics are op on siel more so than the other classes then? You say that but do you take into account that a glad can kill someone in a single stumble or that a sorc can two hit / 3 hit someone same as templar...It is balanced on Siel in its own way. Clerics take forever to kill someone they sacrifice this for great survivability and ability to keep others alive.
     
  13. Chuyoung

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    i played both servers~~ even retail and other pservers~~

    and btw..only reason why glads are good is cause kd is bugged~~in retail you cant kd some1 who is in kd state already~~just saying


    temp is also bugged btw~~ you can do chain pull.. in retail you cant pull some1 who is in ministun state " from pull "/kd/ or knockback state~~

    pvp is 100% diff if you played in stigma system.. and fix really simple bugs~~

    so i say again free stigma is retarded~~
     
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    None of this helps your argument that clerics are more OP than any other class. In fact you just stated some of the reasons other classes are powerful.. Yes we all know pvp on siel is different than the other servers...part of the reason we play on siel is because it is different...Otherwise we would all be on retail playing with non pvp armor yes?
     
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    dont like arguing with people like you who will never get it lol~~is why there are no good players in siel~~bye~~
     
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  16. vesiinabox

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    And you just showed that you couldn't back up your own statement. .."no good players in siel" very grown up of you.
     
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    Just another ordinary player qqing about other classes.....
     
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  18. Badrobot

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    Clerics need the best gear and the best staff in order to be able to be OP. And guess what? A sin can simply rape you with a gear worth 3k Credits, just because he has dual godstones and slayer form (Why would NCSOFT give such an OP skill to sins? I still dont get this, and it has such a low cooldown, what the hell.. at times ncsoft is so retarded.) while the cleric would require a 25k worth of gear to be able to do the same thing.

    Back in the ABG days any decent cleric HAD TO HAVE the ABG gear and the NHDE staff in order to enjoy the game (unless you were a healing slave, in that case it wouldnt really matter) and now that we have very powerful gears such as EAC/ACD/HAD the dangerous clerics are still the ones with the top gear..

    Cleric skills are not OP. First of all, Sacrificial Power (wonderful skill) cannot be used at the same time with Benevolence. This means that you can either be a healer or a dpser because you get a minus 250 healing boost once you activate Sacrificial Power and that is already a huge minus for clerics especially while fighting Sorcs or Sins or a few great gladiators.

    Other skills: Servants/Dots/Call Lightning, those can only damage you if the MA of the cleric is High, and that's when? When he either has a staff on or an MA set on and in that case you can keep silencing him, so kudos.
    Shields: After-Remove-Shoock Shield 8k Absorbtion, yes its great but you cant attack your enemy in that state and you can still get silenced, so its not so great after all. Then we have blessed shield, a truly nice skill which by the way is currently bugged, but it can only absorb a very small amount of damage, so i wouldnt call that OP either. And the 5k shield has a huge cooldown so its something like the iron skin of the templar but the only difference is that it lasts less and its a lot weaker.

    I think most people that ever played a cleric know that the class is not OP, in fact its the one class in Aion that's been screwed with ever since the game was created. The class has more disadvantages than advantages.

    In short, top geared and very skilled clerics are OP. But then again, any very skilled players at any class are OP and the only difference is that they can do it with a much worse gear.
     
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    AT LAST someone else who knows my pain XD.
     
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    On Siel everyclass is OP with all stigma's

    IMO Clerics are not OP, because they lack good damage skills.

    They can only win duels if they run around and heal like a boss =P and anoy the sh1t out of you =D
     
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