Economic Stabilization-Lets take it a step farther

If someone PARS IRL cash they are paying for the item.

If your read the post he said bring in medals and npcs ect with AB being able to buy the gear but at higher level so donating would be an easy way out.

Why the hell shouldn't someone contributing get gear that newcomers don't have.
YOU ARE NEW WORK FOR IT OR DONATE
I just started playing last week, I don't feel like it imbalanced (yea IMBA IS NOT A FUCKING WORD AND MAKES YOU SOUND RETARDED FYI)

Wipe the money, prices come down and new people can work to make the cash needed to buy the now reasonably priced gear.

If you want people with ABG to loose there gear it pretty much means your fail and think them not having gear will make you less fail.


IF THEY WIPE THE SERVER
Its not hard to track credit items.... Just refund all spent credits to all accounts when you wipe... simple. Then those who earned the credits can re-buy the gear.

 

Off topic: I have an Assmodian and im waiting for u to keep your promises...

IGN: Atwa, and u could mail me... LOLOL!!!

 

Your one person out of idk how many but its is alot. I know that a lot of the new players would appreciate some equality when they start, I know I did. And please no QQing about me saying IMBA, alot of people use it so you can just chill. And another thing, Wiping the money wouldn't do jack shit, as you can tell. When the people with over 30b got their money wiped, did you notice a change in any prices? I think not! People are still complaining about going over 2b in the broker, proving that it hasnt changed much at all. If you really want to have a successful server, then the wipe should be for everyone, not only for the people who havnt donated (and im talking about items here, not kinah which i have already stated my opinion on that).

Edit: Do you think its fair to take away someone who has full +15 gear and weapons and jewels that didn't donate for it and leave another person who did donate for full ABG will their entire set and gear? I mean seriously? Just think of the complaints piling up on the forums, and the crap the Owners would get about it.

 

While I think that there is heavy inflation, this is not how you should go about reconstructing a financial structure. It's a bit too socialistic, such that we take from all and divide equally, only to have a clean financial slate and the donators with untradeable items. Let me mention that this was the case about a month ago where untradeables (ABG, EAT/EGT) were really untradeable and people were pretty frustrated. Not being able to trade, swap, and exchange your items, even move them amongst your characters is a huge negative mark on the freedom and tangibility of private servers (being apart from retail). Furthermore, not being able to trade and swap donation items is also detrimental to any market as well. Not being able to trade your items for something better or equal, prevents people from pursing and maximizing their pleasure/happiness. For example, what if I donated for a bow for a ranger and then I decide that a gladiator is actually the class that I am good at--am I supposed to donate again? Also, what if I wanted to move my donation items from one character to another; how would that turn about?

It's extremely necessary for a thriving and progressive market system to be able have the freedom to exchange your goods/items to others so that you can not only obtain what you don't have, but to obtain what you want. This is, in my opinion, the nature of the laissez-faire econimic system.

I believe that what Alente did was good, except that he should've left them with 10b, not nothing at all. He punished people that had over 30b, even if they perhaps traded to obtain such a high amount of money. This problem needs to be fixed from the inside out by eliminating duping and close monitoring and surveillance, rather than abolishing all of our kinah and starting anew. That's now how it should be done.

About your suggestion on golden medals, it's really up the GMs on whether or not they'll be offered via PvP basis. But also remember, if this were done through AP, then premium accounts would have a huge advantage and this might not be the best route. I'd like to see golden medals handed out through legion fortresses, rather than AP itself.

That's just my two cents.

 

I don't completely agree with your idea. There is alot to consider. Like the fact that it seems to me that since you don't have Billions you wouldn't care, and you have your donation gear. So basically you don't want anyone else to be able to trade it. Or get it easy, so they players that already have it have a pretty big advantage in the PVP. Therefore, if Gold medals only dropped in one area. People who couldn't afford to donate, would prolly never get them. Because people with better gear would just camp that area. And it would start the new dilima GOLD Medal camping rather then Spawn camping.

Basically just giving everyone else, a unfair advantage in the game. If we want to fix the economy like that anyway alot of people would quit. Look at SWG before patch 9. I was the 3rd richest person in my server. All the noobs voted for a wipe because people like me had in the hundreds of billions. Afterwards, i litterally had nothing. No items no money. Patch 9 killed that game.

 

I did, and you was bitching around too if you was losing all your money ingame.

Anyway, I got it back. :3

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It's an Asmodian not an Assmodian
/w Frightin or Frightie lol.

 

Gratz, and you bet your ass i would be xP

 

Dont avoid possible situation may happen. All comments should be treated as equal, if by doing what u think is right and what u want is right. Then, just ask GM to lock this and no one will be able to post any comment.

Another matter is setup your own server, you are the boss by then, do whatever you want.

 

A) Your whole argument about me doing this because I would benefit is stupid. Ask alente why.

B) Why the hell would people with donation gear camp these areas? And I doubt it'd be a 1v1 thing. There'd be a lot of pvp going on here. A LOT. Imagine those prim and tem raids? Now combine them together. Thats what we would be looking at. Camping that location would be damn hard. and it'd not just be rvr since same races would be competing to kill the monster.

C) Donation GEAR should never be tradeable. Lots of servers have this problem. They might as well add a -donate for kinah- option if you are gonna do that.

D) @ Yunis, donation gear would still be able to be stored in account wh.

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I'm fine with comments that are against mine but use logic and economics. I'm not fine with comments that offer nothing more than "players will leave."

 

You only wrote a sentence to my response? pftt

*goes to play*

 

I dont agree with most, ryang.

I dont trade with ANY player.

My kinah has been earned in events and alot of grinding.

All the gear my characters wear has been boss hunted by me and my partner until all chars outfitted that we play.

My pvp only toon has finally (approx 3 months) getting enough credits to start abyss accessories. Have necklace, helm, earrings. Was getting close to 2k credits again, and was going to go for pvp weapon next. (closed Paypal ended that) Used the first 1500 credits for premium.

At NO time have I thought of selling credits to other players. Why? I need them for myself, and have been patiently getting my own gear/acc.

When I have all needed items, which will take about another 3 months or so, what to spend credits on? Since free, I guess whatever they may add in item shop or come up with. But STILL wouldnt sell for kinah.

Kinah isnt hard to come by, total combined from all my toons doesnt even total 2b. I gather all my pots for all my toons needs. Abyss points help with rest as i spend mine down.

After a hard days work, I come home to grind/gather/pvp, depends on mood. Since there is too many pvp hackers atm, I have been getting pots/kinah up until the new gm's work on the hackers. Then I can go back out and enjoy pvp again.

Grinding kinah, to me, isnt to buy items. Not really needed except for transport atm. But I take a private pleasure in seeing home much I can grind out. Same with materials. I am currently in the process of making a thousand of all needed. Weird? Oh well, its a goal while waiting on pvp to improve (and my skills :sick

But to wipe all inventory of people like me ryang? Really? Take away what last joy I get from AION? I came from retail. Love all that AION is, from gather to pvp. I was rolled by retail, you want to roll me here? Seriously?

The only thing I DO agree with is making donated items untradeable. Donate item chosen for one toon, not to be moved around.

Just my 2 cents. I am not logging on to lose what I have gained through a bug. Didnt log last night for RL reasons and tonight glad I DIDNT log in. I dont want the log in and out bug to take away my earnings, what little I have. And if this server were to completely wipe kinah/inventory from me, I will be gone. Simple.

PS: Side note, please let me know when safe to enter game again. (SC2 level 26 normal mode is killing me inched: )

 

I didn't mean just you. Okay answer me this then

A) what is the purpose for any lvl 55 more or less 30+ (of them) to camp area's like Elten, right next to the spawn site. Because they think its funny to kill noobs?

Although your argument is sound. People would camp that boss. The only reason would be to be mean, and prevent anyone else from getting the same gear they have.

 

Leading me back to the imbalanced portion of this argument.

 

Okay. It sounds like a good idea to me. Just make the zones where you farm for rare items/medals a NON-pvp zone (Maybe even make another zone that is PvP, but with higher drop rates). That way new players won't be wandering in and getting slaughtered by others that have already donated for their gears. I agree with the kinah wipe BUT there still needs to be a cap put on kinah or the prices will just rise again, which would make the whole kinah wipe useless anyway. I wouldn't say some kinah cap like 350mil, but more like 1-2bil. Donations items should be able to be put in the account warehouse that way you could take your main to farm for items for your new characters and speed up the process slightly. I agree with making it so you can't sell ABG in broker that way every one still has to work for it.

 

This sounds more reasonable, Like an instance for people who aren't good at pvp with lower rates. And Higher rates for the PVP area. That actually sounds good to me. If they do implement it.

 

See I decided to use my brain for that one.:kewl:

 

I do like that, it sounds reasonable and it would make it easier for the noobs to get geared, and at the same time providing a place where the geared people can go PVP and have fun, whilst also getting metals in the process.

 

I don't get that while reading through the whole thread I was the only one who thought this through completely. Because, as you said, it gives a place for noobs to gear up without their area being camped constantly. But, as an edit to my old post I would have to say make the medals obtainable ONLY in the PvP zone.

 

Guys, they're not gonna make a map where you can get medals from enemy drops. Sorry, but you people who just joined the forums (August 2010 people) are too idealistic.

 

Just because I joined the forum at a later date than you did doesn't mean that our ideas should just be thrown out. I have been playing this server for 2 months longer than I made my forum account. The only reason that I now have a forum account is because I sat and watched the economy in-game fall apart. I think any idea that is meant to help the economy is a good idea for now.