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criti spell for cleric???

Discussion in 'Questions' started by zatiz, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. kath15

    kath15 Proficient

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    Hac staff + ma fuse staff = 2k+ ma I have killed many sorc without a problem...
     
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    Use the staff and a sin like breez gonna kill u in 1 stun+that ur gonna lose 1600 block :)
    With 1700-1800ma still not enough to hit a sin in slayer form or a sorc with elem(with no ms they can have 2.1k mr...with dual ms they can have 2.4k mr)
    mr/block build is for support tree...so if ur using the ma buff u won't be able to benevolence ;)
     
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  3. kath15

    kath15 Proficient

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    Nope not hard to tank a sin with heals? Sins suck without buffs just tank them until there buffs die off. Is called switch to shield switch to staff when the sin attacks you switch to shield/mace not hard.
     
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    Most of the players use M.Resist, also using a Staff against fighters? I wouldn't recommend that oO' Against mages yes, perhaps it's good, i dunno.
    But you need to also have a mace/shield. Mace/shield = more manastones too, right? Or fuse has same amount of sockets?

    Also, outheal the sins' damage? With all the stuns they got and while getting silenced by his GS every 5-10 seconds? lol doubt it. That's more than hard unless the sin is a newbie. You won't be able to blind/stun/root him without MA if he got some mres too.
     
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    maybe he's hoping to crit the heals...
     
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    Good one, but hey.. nothing is impossible in this Server, I really wouldn't be surprised if I saw such thing one day. lol
     
  7. Purell

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    Who puts ma on their set? If I was a cleric (which I was at one point during 3.7) i'd just put ma/mb on staff. Clerics can be a bit squishy if you have the wrong build. As for this value thing that you're all complaining about, you probably misunderstood on what she was trying to say. With 3.2 block she's able to block a lot of melee classes especially during this time when there's bunch of melee classes running around, and less casters. She's not accurate on how much she can actually block, but I have tested this build myself, and I also have dueled many good players and tanked their damage without a problem.

    As for your accuracy thing, not many players are geared up and running with accuracy on their set. They might in lum, but in siel they're definitely not. You rarely find players with any accuracy in their set. Most players are usually just running around 2.7-2.8 accuracy with the build atk+cirt or crit+block. You may not block 100% with 3.2 block, but you definitely do block a good certain amount of deadly attacks. You also block a lot of stuns and stumbles when having block. If you're going to post and tell me i'm wrong? I would test the build myself before trying to criticize someone's build. I also ended up with 2k mr. I wouldn't recommend on having 3.2 block because you really don't need that amount of block in your set, you would only need like 3k and the rest would be mr which that would give you 2.2mr. Having 2.2 mr you would reist some attacks, not all.

    The kitchen comment was also not necessary.

    Sorcs aren't much of a issue on 3.7, even if you're playing in siel you can just easily tank their damage without a problem, and also kite off the elemental ward. In my opinion clerics aren't really meant to be much of an offensive class they're called a support class for a reason so adding ma/mb into your set will be kind of silly. You should know this since you been around for a really long time.
     
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    If you're going to kite a sorc till his elemental ward is down, he can surely kite you too till his good spells are up again.. you don't go around thinking like this, you can't always run away imo..
    As about the MA, unless things have changed since the last time i played, many, way too many players use M.Res manastones. Killing a M.Res fighter without MA/MB is almost impossible if he knows what to do, especially a templar, or at least i believe so. How do you kill a templar with Mres/magic suppression gear when he runs and pots? You'll eventually run out of mp at some point and die, or you'll be forced to run and pot too. Perhaps MB is not a good idea because clerics got DoTs that don't require MB afaik, i dunno.. but MA is necessary imo.
    I played a templar with M.Resist myself in the past and almost no cleric could kill me, believe me. I couldn't kill them either, they would run and pot on low mp but i did the same and the pvp lasted 5-6 mins then players from both sides came and we got ganged. Both of us would remain at full hp lol, Imagine now with the Magic Suppression...

    If you can get a staff/mace/shield, you're good i guess, socket ma and maybe mb on staff and block or mres or both on shield/mace, idk.

    This guy is looking for an offensive build, doubt he cares about mres/block. I personally would use M.Res/M.Acc for Soloing =S or Block/M.Acc.
    I'd put mb on a staff to switch and damage whenever i would get attacked by a person w/o mres who can be kited and attacked from far, a glad for example.

    p.s. Sorcs never were an issue really, except for when the remove shock chain shield spell was bugged and would block spells (It was supposed to block only physical damage if i remember right). To be hard for clerics they had to have 2 sets, one with full M.Res and one with MA/MB
     
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    Ma/Mr ^^. Like a boss......
     
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    I only want to see her explanation how she can get 95% block, can't imagine that high percent of blocks.

    And about the killing sorcs w/o any problem...proofs or gtfo.
     
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    Truth.................
     
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    I get what you're saying, but what it sounds like to me is that you're describing is a offensive build that you can easily go around in gamez finding a 1v1 without a problem. Any class can be a issue if you know how to use them correctly and having the right build.

    Uh, she meant something else when she said that she can get 95% block.

    Beating a sorc can be easy. It's really all about timing your skills and being ready to tank that one combo that all sorcs depend on.
     
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    An offensive build is what he wants. And i never said he'll find people to do 1on1s with easily, this game was not meant to be played solo sadly. He did not say he want to use the cleric for 1v1s anyways. And of course, every class can be a pain in the arse if played good, some are just a bit harder to kill i think :/ like a mres templar as i said. For spellcasters, it became even harder now with the magic supp. :/

    @ultimattedragon
    Clerics could kill sorcs easily even before they add the magic suppression stuff, they would hide behind objects and they would run/pot and use Elemental-Proof scrolls. Sorcs would run out of mp after the first nuke. The only way for me to kill a cleric was nuke him then sleep and run till nuke is ready again, unless he was bad. Good clerics were almost impossible to kill by sorcs, especially if you got ping like mine (450~650 usually)
     
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    Dont wanna interrupt your lovely discussion. But just in case you guys dont already know it, a good assassin is cleric's worst enemy and if you disagree with me just go fight some of the good sins around here (especially the ones with 2 digit ping), id personally rather use my templar to beat them because with cleric the chances are lower, especialy with slayer form (fack that skill and fack ncsoft) . Glad probably comes second and sorc 3rd at difficulty for clerics.

    SM sounds dangerous but actually for a cleric they are a smaller threat, its easy to outheal them and your hot;s can take care of their dots/debuffs, but dont underestimate them..


    Each class has an anti-class i believe, its kind of my theory =d
     
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    alexxu is pro, he had been playing even in his mum's stomach, let's believe him and use macc/mb in our sets! D:< kath we suck =(
     
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    Hahaha ..... cleric is not hard to kill only have to be fast .... the only cleric I do not kill with my sorcerer was the # Alexxu.
     
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    d'awwwww fun =)
     
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    Yeah.... xD
     
  19. kath15

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    Okay. Just because you killed some low-geared cleric in the past that doesn't mean every cleric you fight is going to be easy and the same as the last cleric you killed. It depends on the clerics gear/ping experience. End of discussion goodnight.
     
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    In your Country, Children live and come out of womens' Stomachs? Interesting.

    You say alexxu has been playing since he was a Kid, yet you prove that the only Kid around is you, by disrespecting his personal Opinion. If such conversations make you feel Butthurt, why did you even create an Account here?

    Oh and a friendly Suggestion, before you show us your Cleric's E-Peen, make sure you're not in a pathetic Zerging Legion next time.

    @ultimattedragon
    Try Some good clerics like Affection, Calith and that Yu..something girl that was in Tomodachi or w/e that legion was called.
    They all have at least two sets and switch from MA to MRes usually ;)
     
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