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Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by irondo23, Feb 2, 2013.

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  1. Chuyoung

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    maybe you need to understand that the proc rate is a lil to high..10% shouldnt even exist..~~ + silence/slow/root/blind/-atk speed shouldnt even stack~~is why people get screwed fighting a group alone~

    back on topic~~ you went on siel so.. sorc is pretty broken there~
     
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    Rizenz Anniel Lien Enna Forum Legend

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    Dont listen to chu. He nub
     
  3. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    thats a good test for base godstone proc but um everyone here stacks MA so...........yea its like 50% and rangers have shitty ma >_<
     
  4. Akikaze

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    You didn't pray to the RNG god. Also you didn't get the point I was making about 10/10 silence godstones are not suppose to exist (hence broken, just like how WoC2 breaks the game balance).
    I cannot record a video but I did some tests on a gearless ranger like you did. Sometimes I don't silence the dummies for 30hits in a row but another time I silenced it consecutively 3 times.
    IMO It is RNG, making it hard to give solid rates, on rangers without macc, it will feel like normal 5% stones but remember Glads get slaughtering for +300 macc so it might feel slightly higher on them.

    Edits: Just did a quick test on a geared Glad, managed to silence the dummy for 5-6 times before I ran out of mana, which is quite often.

    Back to topic. There actually will be a skill in 4.0 that grants Glads temporary boost in magic suppression (+300) but minus magic resist (-100) for 15seconds, 3mins cooldown.
     
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    1. Proc rate isn't that high, just a lot of players have a lot of MA
    2. 10%'s definitely shouldn't exist, but if you do some testing, the proc rate was lowered.
    3. Of course those shouldn't stack, that's a separate bug in itself. There are a bunch of reasons why it sucks to pvp solo on Gamez atm, and I can think of at least 3 that supersede that.

    Yes it is RNG, but you can sample it by procs, do a quick math equation, and have a rough estimate how often it procs. Still that is a tad time consuming, but I can assure you the proc rate isn't imba.

    You silenced them with a geared gladiator, a geared gladiator has +300 MA + whatever else he is wearing/slotting. Blame the insane proc rates on the fact that it's a high rate server and players can stack MA.
     
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    pvp not only skill grinding your foe to death you must know your class and info bout your foe. initial defense buff is essential you must watch your foes buffs on before casting your disabling skills especially silence always have an eye to silence and stun skills if they are done cool down.while keeping an eye to your hp for healing skill. know some info to every class man it can be an edge. if you know your foe can kill you fast than you can like sorcs,SMs or healers disabling skills is your friend. if your foe is ranger,plate user you can cast high damage skills immediately aftr silence or minus def skills. goodluck
     
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    favor? stop repeating what i said...
    btw #3 made me laugh hard~~you make it seem like i didnt know it was a bug..you're really funny
     
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    This doesn't really prove anything. Only the fact that it's 10% per centum (which means one hundred) should make you think that you can't prove a thing with only 21 hits or how many that was. You were very unlucky, but maybe if you kept on recording you would have gotten 5 procs in a raw.

    Get a video with at least 100 hits and then we can see if the outcome gets near the 10 out of 100...
     
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    Why would I infer that you lacked the knowledge it was a bug? You are quite a well known player, you have earned the respect of many of the pros that currently play this server. I have seen you do some slideshots that were quite impressive, I had never seen them done in that fashion before. I was simply stating that godstones aren't as game breaking as everyone is saying they are. That is something that it being disputed. The stacking of debuffs is a clear out bug and should be taken care of immediately.

    You are very correct, that video cannot properly illustrate the proc rate of silence. It was however meant to point out that the godstone proc rate isn't as high as some might think. 54s of auto attack for 1 silence? Some were higher, others lower, but somebody should definitely try some math on it.
     
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    If you dont have around the 1600 MR mark on this server (siel) you are going to find yourself godstoned to death vs anyone who stacks a little MA....Thats just in my personal testing..1600 is like the Godstone death range.
     
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    before my MR is 1970 but now when i restacking my set im in 1650 MR i observed when i tried to fight decent sorc i cant even resist a single one theres a much different from my previous manastones build..for me you must have atleast in 1750 for you gladiator.
     
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    go on with crit/attk ms and att/crit with some acuracy and magical accuracy...... sorc just using cloth, so its easy if you can break their stone skin faster..... also make sure you always got sort kind of pot(Second Wind Skill + Serum + ABYSS POT) and actually UD is usefull for gladi vs sorc....

    EDIT: Higher Magic Resist gladi against HIgher magic accuracy sorc = Sorc will win also.. since sorc got some skill to increase their magical accuracy without socketing MA manastone on their armor .
     
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    I have a hac set full MR on my gladi and unless the sorc knows im MR I dont see them buff up...which means i get enough resists in the begining of the fight to get close and end it before they can use supplication...its a 50/50 there some know my build by now and buff anyways but if you can survive/ kite supplication = back to resisting all their skills. (2500 MR without shield)...Comes in useful. Not to mention the resist root and lockdown of other glads ...resist most all rangers skills, 50/50 of resisting sin stuns......and lots of other fun things :)
     
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    Sorc are only strong cause they got full stigma skills on siel. On lumiel there not much of a threat tbh.
     
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    oh. i see.. the gundamium set..!
    but maybe in gamez they will edit the stat of some new item..(set/weapon/accesa etc.)

    so maybe it can buy in credits/toll so i can pvp for all the time :)

    just dont forget to vote every 12hours!

    hehehe
    .. btw thanks for the info!

    I LIKE PVP!!!
     
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    =< try an mr set maybe? :D or hope someone will come along and help you ^-^
     
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    just login ur ranger and kill that pajama wearing mage!!!!
     
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    MR Sets won't help you out anymore (only against lower geared people like ABG or something)

    a full HAC/ACD Geared sorc like me and with the release now of dual manastones (wich are very imba ^^)
    we kinda hit 90% on MR builds when we use MAC buffs.

    I Have no problems at all killing a full MR HAC Cleric they might resist like 1 up to 3 attacks but that's about it.

    With buffs & foods etc i got over 3k MACC and over 3K MB so...

    Glads better go attack / crit accuracy for imba damage and killing leather & cloth classes in just a few hits lol.
     
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    Idk about the clerics you fight but if a sorc missed 3 skills of his combo on my cleric his chances of killing me went from something to like 5%
    And also i find attack manastones completely useless on a gladiator yes crit accuracy i agree can be nice though :3
    Take the time to test attack stones on a glad personally i see no increase in damage beyond maybe 50 extra dmg on top of normal skill damage.
     
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    MR Sets helps against ABG players? I feel sorry for those ACD wearers getting killed by my ABG wearing chars then.
     
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