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Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by opawens, Mar 3, 2013.

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  1. opawens

    opawens Type O

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    Why there is woc 1 and woc2? Im a new player here, and where do i get woc 2?
    Please answer, anyone. Please :)
     
  2. jwtddd

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    Hi, there are things that are only temporary aivalable in shop with credit, it was the case for WOC2, so you can have it only by trading with players that bought it when it was available.
     
  3. Smartik1

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    It will most likely be available again during special holidays. Carl seems to love doing this since it is very profitable xd
     
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  4. cocosul

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    IT'S $ MACHINE ITEM:) it s cost 60$ and is aviable like 2 times on a year for few hrs:)
     
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    WoC1 and WoC2 are really testing items that have been made available in game by private servers. Wings of the Circle 1 is a pair of wings that give certain bonuses if you condition it to level 1, particularly 8% attack speed. Wings of the Circle 2 is a pair of wings that got thep level 1 conditioning and an extra conditioning that gives certain extra stats, particularly 16% attack speed.

    WoC2 is especially valuable since, when fully conditioned, it provides a total of 24% extra attack speed, since conditioning stats add up.

    Normal Wings of the Circle

    Wings of the Circle 1

    Wings of the Circle 2


    WoC1 can be found in Cash Shop under wings for 2.5k Credits, it's an item you can obtain at any time through cash shop or trades. WoC2 is only put in shop during very special holiday occasions, particularly easter and christmas. It goes for usually 6k Credits in Cash Shop and due to its rarity in shop and the stats it gives, it can go for a lot more than 6k credits in player trades.
     
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    Ty to the OP for asking this question becuase I was sitting here also wondering but too scared to ask incase people call me nub. :) I never knew about the 2x a year or special holidays thing.. i thought it was random in shop like some RNG thing.. so I check like 200x a day to see if it's there :whistling: lso the same thing on the website i keep checking all day :innocent: now i am confessing it ..You can call me nub now :cool: but now i know better ^^.

    There are also some other special days maybe you can consider Carl.. my birthday (july), your birthday(?), iphone 5s/6 release day (september)... worth thinking about..
     
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  7. opawens

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    Oh, thank you eveyone now i know, better save up my credits incase woc2 returns to the item shop.
    Thanks a lot. It really helped me guys.
     
  8. coramoor

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    hey there guys, thanks for the info also.....btw, can somebody tell me if WOC 1 is good for sorc or magic class??? and if not, what is the best wings for sorcs and where to get them? and also, what class is better suited for WOC1??? i would not ask for WOC2 since its too expensive for me atm...eheheheh ...many many thanks in advance....
     
  9. Puddles

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    Attack speed is good on caster classes as it will shorten animation times a little bit. (The actual motions when you cast). So, yes it would be a little bit of a help.

    That is also why mage classes, (Cleric, SM, Sorc) will use attack speed as well as cast time reduction.

    For a mage (SM / Sorc) it is useful to fuse a tome / orb which ever you would like that has Cast Speed % and Attack Speed % (as the bonus from them do not stack.)
     
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    thanks sir puddles for the info...but the reason i ask it is because many players ingame are telling me that woc 1 is not suited for sorc or mage class but instead Ancient wings or Kahrun wings is much better than woc1 for me to use....and its a pity since i just sold my items namely my abg set+add to get that woc1.....wew.... also, do we need to continue augmenting the wings or wat??sorry for the noob question since i just returned ingame after long hiatus.....and if need augmenting, wat do we need and how much it will cost???and where to augment for that matter???
     
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    Puddles is not a man.


    As of your question, woc1 is very good for mages.. in fact its better than any other wing (Except for woc2 of course). You can buy conditioning in general stores.. i buy mine in sanctum/panda. There is also a conditioning NPC in the crucible area marchutan/kaisinel academy/priory.

    Option 1: Buying the conditioning stone which costs a few millions from the general store.

    Option 2: Walk/Scroll to that crucible area and place your wings into the conditioning NPC, it takes time and its not as handy, but it is a lot cheaper in kinah.

    Conditioning 1 costs little but id suggest buying conditioning 2 as it will allow your woc1 to last longer than normal, im not sure whether or not that's a bug.. but it works well (i personally dont use woc1, but my friends do).
     
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    No no, it is not a newbie question =p.

    As for the augment, it would be conditioning at the NPCS in the Priory or Academy. However, yes there are stat differences between WoC / Ancient / Kahrun wings. However. The main difference between WoC L2(1) and Ancient Spirit wings would be the Strike Resist and Fortitude (which effects critical hit damage).

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    [TR]
    [TD]Wing Name
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    [TD]Ancient Spirit[/TD]
    [TD]Kahrun[/TD]
    [TD]WoC L2[/TD]
    [TD]With Cond L2 (overall Stats)[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Hit Points[/TD]
    [TD]449[/TD]
    [TD]430[/TD]
    [TD]200[/TD]
    [TD]574 (374)[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Flight Time[/TD]
    [TD]85[/TD]
    [TD]85[/TD]
    [TD]70[/TD]
    [TD]70[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Strike Resist[/TD]
    [TD]44[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]8[/TD]
    [TD]8[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Strike Fort[/TD]
    [TD]80[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]30[/TD]
    [TD]30[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Spell Resist[/TD]
    [TD]8[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]0[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Mana[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]288[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]336
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Attack (Phyiscal)[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]17
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Attack Speed[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]24% (8% WoC L1) (16%WoC L2)[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Accu (Physical)[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]59
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Block[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]19
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Parry[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]73
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

    While, the stats do vary, over all I would personally prefer WoC L2 on a casting class as it provides more MP / HP / Attack speed (allowing you to get closer to the capped speed for Auto attacks, and such( which can provide useful, when used in conjunction with a Cast + ASpd fused orb or tome. Giving you a total of 43% attack speed.

    The Other stats, those which effect critical strikes are more or less nominal and minimalistic when you look at the benefits you gain from the HP, MP, Aspd pools given by WoC L2 and or even WoC L1 (denoted by Blue for WoC L1 Stats / Red for WoC L2 Stats). I will say, yes the other wings are good for in game obtainable if you are unable to get yourself WoC L1 / 2 but, in the end in my personal opinion I would strive to get the attack speed enhance wings over any other for obvious reasons.


    Yes, the conditioning 2 issue is a bug and well, while it is a bug. It is not one we typically punish for (outside of when someone attempts to use said wings for trading. =p).
     
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    that is a nice fact to know.. coz i have lucky wings on my SM. and i have a WOC1 that i am not using ATM. so i would try to use it on my SM.

    about the conditioning NPCs, you can find them at Sanctum/Pande, Academy/Priory, Ingisson/Gelkmaros, Sarpan, and Rancora Fort
     
  14. cocosul

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    use woc1+courage scroll:) u will feel a bit strong:D
     
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    well thanks Badrobot and Ms Puddles for your very informative information that you have given us....its really satisfying to know that in this forum, most everybody are so helpful, with no spammer and haters......hope it keeps this way always........many many thanks again....more power!!!!

    offtopic, which dualstones are better for sorc????MB/MA for armors or MB/MR???? using EAC CLOTH? ABG CLOTH?? and for weapons, fused HAC/PRIMAL ORB MB/MA or wat???? ABG/MASTA ORB/TOME???again, many many thanks in advance....
     
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    I would say MA/MB since this is a private server where MR stones are cheap and every other person has a full MR set. The pvp damage boost from MB is not nearly as high as pve and getting a skill resisted not only wastes far more damage, but can also get you killed (CC resist etc). Unless you plan to pve a lot and carry 2 sets, I would stack MA as primary.

    To further explain WoC2 for sorcerers, we have a restriction that even for instant skills will not allow us to cast another skill unless the attack animation of the previous one finished. This is why reducing animation times matters. You can notice it the most when you overbuff cast speed reduction buffs or when using the low damage chain of aether hold since it is instant with virtually no cooldown. Without WoC2 you can get about 3-4 of them before it expires, while with it you get 5-6 (results vary due to ping).
     
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    thanks a lot Sir Smartik1 for your insightful feedback....now I know, as the saying goes....ejejjejeje...more power and happy gaming....
     
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    Can you switch WOC1 and WOC2 to your other characters if you are not VIP? Coz on website store it sez its untradeable and cannot be stored.

    Thanks.
     
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    As long as you have the item pack for the server most of all general items (not including quest items and combined weapons) are tradable within the same account using account storage.
     
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    kimoraliie, i think if you have the necessary ITEM PAK for this version, you can store and exchange items even if they are untradeable since i can exchange use my WOC1 on my other characters to see how this will help them vis avis pve/pvp situation .....hope this helps......
     
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