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Pve Godstone Question!

Discussion in 'Questions' started by macarenas, Mar 5, 2013.

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  1. macarenas

    macarenas Banned

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    ok...i get a vasharti sword after 2 months for waiting and i whant to use this sword just for pve,and im thinking what godstone should i chose on this vasha sword for pve?...im templar....i know silence....blind...para..stun are uselles for bosses....and damage godtones are for MB clasess...so i need to chose...bleed,poison,root,50%attack speed,50%move speed.....what is best for templar on vasha sword in pve????tell your oppinion here thank you
     
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    well blind is the best vs mobs since it has the highest proc rates while providing complete immunity to damage from most of them. really depends how much time u r gonna spend fighting bosses vs regular mobs. btw blind can help in pvp too as it makes melee classes just miss xd
     
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    Not necessarily correct. You can still use damage godstones for PvE and provide a decent increase in DPS (especially with a PvE mace). Blind/Paralyse is useful and reduces the damage you take considerably from Elite mobs.

    Templar already has a spammable skill that reduces attack speed, don't bother with this. Movement speed reduction is also useless on bosses and often you don't need to kite normal mobs, not to mention you can use Doom Lure for the slows movement debuff. Bleed/Poison ticks damage is a joke and adds pretty much nothing since your skills do not benefit from the target been poisoned. Silence doesn't do much in PvE either. Never personally tried the stun godstone so I cannot judge its usefulness.
     
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    I used the blind gs here on gamez (on my sorc) since I have plenty of my own damage while those nuke godstones have really low proc rates (especially for mages with low attack speeds). It helped a ton vs mobs since 10% blind stones proc pretty often and last pretty long too. Saved me many times. I would recommend that for pve for any class since most mobs are melee/ranged

    And yea bleed is garbage since the damage is really low and especially for mobs you would have to keep them alive for a long time to benefit from bleeding (kinda counter productive when your goal is to kill them as fast as you can). Attack speed/movement speed are nothing compared to complete damage protection.
     
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    Have to agree that Blind is a very good choice for Mages (and most classes in general) in PvE. Sorcerers (and spiritmasters) can also silence, slow, root, among a range of things except for blind. Having blind proc and mobs missing on you is a great luxury and provides some protection from being 4hit KO'd by elite mobs. It doubles its purpose in PvP too since Silence is already covered by low cooldown skills =]

    Forgot there's snare godstone too but it seems irrelevant to PvEing with Templars.
     
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    i do instances everyday....ef/am/rb....ok blind work well on mobs and pvp but for bosses like zandra tuali vasharti?i need for bosses...i have 0 MB so i cant use a nuke godstone?wright?...poison/bleed are garbage but proc like crazy on this bosses...so blind must be my choice or a nuke godstone like 1880/2%????wich is best guys on templar?
     
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    last i checked temps are not even expected to be a dps class and tbh the amount of damage u r gonna do thanks to a godstone is insignificant anyway. your 1880 at 2% will proc once in 50 hits which is the equivalent of 37.6 dmg per hit. considering how much dmg u normally do its nothing
     
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    so blind must be my choice......but this blind dont proc on bosses(tuali-vasharti-zandra-ecc)?!!!:(
     
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    Don't be too concerned about DPSing as a templar in PvE boss battles. Your role is to stay alive and maintain aggro, as long as you keep attacking and using taunt skills, you'll do fine. DPS should be the purpose of Assasins, Rangers, Sorcerers and Gladiators since those classes provide better damage output.

    If you MUST worry about godstone procs whilst fighting bosses. Invest in a Mace that has Attack Speed, examples include: Stormwing, Mastarius' (or Veille's), Distorted Dragon Lord's, Crafted Noble Maces, and slot a damage godstone.
     
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    Slow attack speed or blind 10% against mobs and 10-20% damage godstone against bosses.


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    PS: Your DPS is going to be insignificant, especially compared to Glad/sorc/sin DPS.. so you really shouldnt worry about that.. Just stay alive :eek:
     
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    Umm why attack speed slow...Dazzling Severe Blow? 12sec debuff slow attack speed, 12sec cooldown?
     
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    Dazzling Severe Blow and Attk/spd decrease godstone effects stack, besides.. you cant hit aoe with dazzling.

    Also, it was just a suggestion.. i personally dont even use such godstones on my templar.. really no need for that.. as long as you have a good pve setup and you can stay alive, other's can take care of the DPS part. And for solo pve purposes, glad/cleric are a lot better and faster than a templar.
     
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    Blind, while it is useful and will keep the physical damage down to a minimum when it procs (only the physical attacks / skills) will miss. Magic skills and such will still hit you.

    Silence, well makes things not cast spells =p

    As for the other godstones.
    Reduced attack speed is an option, slowing down the physical attacks of the mob to a crawl.
    Bleed the ticks are not as good as you would most likely want, although they will help you maintain a high threat.
    Para has a really low proc chance though it could provide a few moments of reprieve from attacks.

    Those proc damage stones, would mainly only be useful for adding to your threat ratio, while you do need to do damage to a boss to maintain aggro (they like to jump to the highest damage / threat characters in some cases those can be your healers). It would be if you are simply going for PvE, to get yourself an actual PvE Set, such as Masta, Kahrun, etc. Those increase your threat and along with the taunts / dps skills your templar already have you should be able to maintain aggro.

    After that, you want to be able to hold the aggro you've generated and maintain support for your group. In which you would be hopefully the main focal point of being healed not the one doing the majority of the dps (you still would need to be damaging the boss though). Most bosses use magical attacks, silence would be a good option. If we are talking about Siel then if your in a group with a sorc / cleric. Blind / Silence / Roots are covered already.

    That would allow you to use whatever else really, if you feel you need a bleed effect to help you maintain aggro, or even a proc godstone (the low ones are good as they have a higher proc rate). Yes, they will not be doing nuke damage but if your only goal is to keep and hold aggro with no issue, then I would say it may be worth while looking at. Also, you could test out different things (some of the godstones are available via abyss npcs for AP).

    In the end, really this would come down to what you wanted, suggestions are valid and worthwhile though over-all, what you are needed to do for the group and what the group needs from you should be taken into account as well.
     
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