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Gamez Aion Condition & Altered State Mechanics

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Methadone, Apr 19, 2013.

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  1. Methadone

    Methadone Banned Forum Legend

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    Recently I dusted off my old gamez account and decided to log back in and see how things were going.

    Unfortunately it became obvious rather quickly that they're not going so well. Population on Lumiel aside, there are still some GLARING issues with core mechanics. These mechanics are the bread and butter of Aion so I'm hoping maybe there's at least one person out there who might care about this.

    Firstly, as it is now you can stack debuffs of the same type on a single target. This is utterly ridiculous. For instance, you can proc one of those fancy 10% attack speed reduction godstones, then apply hallowed strike, and then proc promise of earth, and then use numbing blow. That is an example where only one player is the source of all these debuffs. I can't even begin to explain how broken that is. Now if you add to that another player can come along, such as a spiritmaster, and stick on top of those a nice shackle of vulnerability, you can see how ridiculous things are getting.

    Second, and so much more importantly altered states mechanics on gamez have not been working properly since I started playing here. Currently, you can stumble a target which is already stumbled, you can pull a target which is still paralyzed from a pull, you can stun a target which is still paralyzed from a pull, you can stumble a target which is already stumbled AND stunned with a stun proc stumble skill. You can stun a target which is already knocked back, you can aether hold a target which is stumbled, you can stumble a target which is paralyzed from a pull etc.... all this is meant to be impossible. If you use a stumble skill on a target which is already stumbled, nothing happens, they receive damage and then shortly stand up from the initial stumble.

    I'm sure I don't need to explain how game-breaking this is, and I guess my question is why has it been like this for so long? And when, if ever, will it be fixed? I don't really care to play any longer on a server which has such a broken core function if I can simply play on my retail account for free, where the mechanics are working correctly, and as they were always meant to work. The way things are now, you don't even have to think about what you're doing while you play. You can literally just button mash and your desired results regarding altered states and conditions will still be achieved. It's a rather thoughtless and negligent approach to PVP.

    Sincerely,
    A concerned gamez veteran
     
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  2. archvanarl

    archvanarl we can play offline!!!

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    oh. ur letter signature catch my attention than the body. but u got a point there.
     
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  3. Nuttela

    Nuttela RetiredFromAion

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    True fact.
    These broken mechanics make zergs even more OP
     
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    Especially when a templar pulls you the first time to paralyze you. Then move far back of the zerg and pull you again.
     
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    Nuttela RetiredFromAion

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    this 2nd pull they putted in 3.0 just faked up everything
     
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    Akikaze Elohim, Essaim...I implore you Forum Legend

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    You've pretty much pointed out the downfalls of Gamez PvP.

    About the stacking of the same debuffs, that actually used to function properly in the past. It is just with each update, they somehow break things and this ended up being one of them. I remember very clearly that I tested out Hallowed Strike and Promise of Earth on my chanter and one override the other.

    As to the second point. It is frustrating and I know very much what you mean, these things I never have to deal with back during my retail days. Problem is people have become so accustomed to it and perhaps even knowingly exploited, hence the increase in templars (especially on Lumiel's asmodian). It is not cool in a clash you meet 5 templars and each one with use their doom lure on you pulling you back and forth like a tennis ball on court.
     
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    Interesting topic with a really good point of consideration
     
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    Ddraig Steel of Destiny

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    Well, yeah....
     
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    Momo Arrogant Member Forum Legend

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    Hi, im Hoppy and i agree with Methadone.. All that shit made me quit few months ago.
     
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    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    OK agreed , however those fancy 10% slow godstones are actually 5% and It only works if the godstone is proced first which rarely happens.
    The population on lumiel is so very low its about 120 -150 people online at all times including both sides. When your pvping your fighting the same people in the same groups doing the same thing in the same map each and every time..very boring pvp compared to siel in my opinion <_<.
     
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  11. Methadone

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    Except that they are actually 10%. I have one equipped on my vash/ACD staff. The godstone is called Eio's Tears.

    I traded another one a few nights ago for a paralyze stone. You're thinking of the Daeva's Vow stone which they sell in the shop under the false pretense that it may actually function as the tooltip says. The Eio's stone is actually 10% and works as such, I think the majority of them came from the Crystal Aion transplants.

    You can however apply this to any condition. Enjoy a covered silence? How about a signet silence which is covered by a 10% silence godstone proc and a radiant rune? See how this works? Lol, how about a blinding burst covered by a blind godstone and blinding light?

    Godstone: Eio's Tears - Items - Aion
     
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    Grrr Highly Damaging Member Forum Legend

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    Hi, im Grrr and i agree with both of them.. All that shit that made them quit made me quit a few months ago.
     
  13. cocosul

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    agree with u...worst thing since is a pvp server..but that is ...private server ....things can t be never like on oficial:(
     
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    blah blah wall of text.. i didnt read but ur signature is so funny :D
     
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    Methadone Banned Forum Legend

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    Today I learned 438 words is too much for Revolution to read.

    I hope you never have to apply for a loan, or sign some other contract.
     
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    I'm still playing sometimes for fun, if you get 1v1 people are so unskilled and you can have a great time.

    However, Aion retail is free to play and leveling is pretty fast, I think that this thread should be concerned. Gamez population is decreasing greatly and if you just put that retail is f2p, it kinda sucks for private servers. They should try to attract people and not do the opposite with many big buggs and system disorders. Only thing that probably makes peopel stay are donations/too lazy to lvl up/don't want to quit after few years.

    I know Alente has health problems and he does great job whenever he can, but if it keeps this way I think that Gamez won't last that long. Lumiel especially, after you, momo and woof/weak guys left the whole server lost its something.
     
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    Frix 고독한 Forum Legend

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    **** it, let's add more items to the shop.
     
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  18. Jessica

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    More costumes you mean!
     
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  19. Ddraig

    Ddraig Steel of Destiny

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    I don´t think they are THAT blind or naive to not see that. I do agree they are money hungry bas.terds but not THAT stupid. However they present the Pserver, if those mechanics do not function remotely similar to retail, it wont report anything good to them; as you pointed and all of us are aware of, no matter how much stuff they have in the store.

    The issue in my opinion, goes more on the lines that they have NO idea how to fix it, or how to approach it.

    Plus, in the context of a year basis, large updates have been made and every time all the fixes get uniformly and utterly taken down and they need another year to get up to date with some stuff that was already fixed. I can blame them for many things, but this particular issue has more points of views that simply "they don´t want to"
     
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    methadone your message can be destruct to other player that they will agree with you or against with you..in game you can stumble a player such as already stumble it mean's skills is always skills...that's why if you have skills that you can use to attack it can be. because that's the skills have a purpose except if you use your skill to stumble youre enemy and then it will be resist when you attack it can be happen what does means your message..^^
     
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