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Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by riddick, May 21, 2013.

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  1. riddick

    riddick Philz!

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    well, everybody here knows about lumiel popularity, is decreasing every month, so my idea is simple and effective.

    first place: reduce the cost of server transfer from siel to lumiel to cost 0 credits atleast 1 time per month. (make it free atleast 1 time per month to every account)

    second place: reduce the cost of server transfers to 750 or 1000 credits.

    third place: increase the VIP status to players in-game. i was thinking the cost would be 5k or 6k credits. or reduce the cost to get vip to 1k Credits.


    explanation: reducing the price of server transfer we can get a transferetion more fluid, people will be more interested on it, seriusly pay 1.5k credits for a transfer its feel like as being robbed, also releasing the transfer from siel to lumiel to cost 0 creds 1 time per month will be more interesting to people to transfer there. so they can go there for free and if get dissapointed they can back paying a low cost.

    mostly of players quit from gamez cause actually the server is losing popularity, its just look lumiel, so we can recover some interest in it, making some things more cheaps.
    example creating the VIP permanent status will help to get more business into the game, ovbiusly get 1.5k creds per month to the game is important, but if we talk about a huge lots of credits can be work. 6k creds for 1 year of VIP.
    also reduce the VIP cost to 1k, that would help to have more people trading inside the game. easier acces to VIP = more people trading = more active people playing.


    is just a little suggestion, but i think the staff ADMs must be worry about the popularity of the server.
     
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    Good idea. But. Server transfer is reasonable. Why? If they reduce it to 1k credits, what happens to the name change ticket to be given to you if lets say another person has your name? It would make the transfer completely free right? Without having to pay an extra of 500 makes it completely free, it's just like buying a name change ticket with more advantages wouldnt it? The idea of making VIP permanent is too much either. It would make the game much much more easier, don't you think? :) Well this is my opinion and this is GameZ as well =d
     
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  3. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    I think the main problem with lumiel is that its stimga..why play gamez stigma server when there are other aion p servers that do it better? Siel is popular for its full stigma its something different than the normal hum drum. I havent got the slightest clue how anyone could begin to save lumiel but the transfer part isnt a bad idea, i do think the vip thing is a bit much however.
     
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  4. Akikaze

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    Having a lesser (or free) transfer could help population boost for Lumiel. However it could do the exact opposite and encourage more people to play on Siel.

    If you do not know how to play with stigmas, it pretty much means you do not know how to play the game >_>
    Most MMORPGs has some level of skill customizations (even if it is a private server). It's not like you need to change your stigma build often anyways, usually only one build does well in both PvP and PvE.

    IF both servers had the same stigma system, remember that Lumiel and Crystal did. The popular server will always get popular than the less popular, irrelevant of gameplay factors. Out of the 3 original servers, Crystal was always left out because of its lower original population base. Now there's only 2 servers to compare, the more populated Siel or the lesser Lumiel. Most reason for picking Siel is it is more popular, without knowing it is full stigmas. Only some when they discover Siel runs on an all stigma system compared to Lumiel, do they really consider playing with or without it. Some people might even be ignorant of the fact, Aion is suppose to run on a stigma system because their first server was Gamez Siel.

    It is not really a free name change ticket if the price was reduced to 1k. You actually lose more during the initial phases of transfer, only after settling in it becomes better. You lose the incentive on your initial server, different economies and community, limited items are moved, also the name you gained on your initial server cannot be regained due to the database not clearing overridden names.
     
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  5. riddick

    riddick Philz!

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    the ticket name can be not allowed for trade, sounds easy, the normal ticket of shop will have the name "name change ticket" and the ticket from transfer will have the actually name "Event name change ticket" and it will be untradeable, is just remove it from item.pack.

    i think the stigma system its not the only one problem from lumiel, i came from there, i love stigma system too, and i wish have that system on siel, but lumiel actually has a low popularity, so its so hard find trades and pvp.
    i remember when i recently joined to the server, lumiel was so cool, pvp in everywhere, abyss was a perfect place to pvp, i just want to revive that old times :(


    yeah that´s a great risk, but without take risk boost up lumiel sounds impossible. lumiel will have the same sad final as crystal server.
     
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    Lumiel isnt even a true stigma server gamez edited you to have some skills that are actually stigma skill... I've played both and well being an sm at least I use the exact same combo on both servers ...other classes loose power sm stays the same quite wonderful realleh. And playing on a full stigma if thats all you play whats the point in learning how to play a stigma build lol...
     
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    not really, i must recognize i have a glad w dual wield stigma like a permanent passive skill, but that´s is just happens w older chars, all new chars dont have the same adventage than older
    PS. i have the older crit boost on glad too, supossed removed but i still have it, that is just a but, its not modified.
     
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    True on the first point, that's the fault of the admins who can't seem to know how to fix things, lol. Many skills are actually fixed now, new Assassins do not get free OoA, and my friend told me he doesn't have Dual Wield on his gladiator compared to mine.

    As to "what's the point?" Which is why the word ignorant. Too many spoilt people on easy mode. What's the point of earning gears, all you need to do is just buy them. What's the point of learning to level yourself, can just go beg for a mentor. Learning to play a stigma build is part of learning how to play the game. If all you know is full stigmas, access to every skill, then you've only learnt 90% of the game despite knowing what all the skills do because you miss out on the "Learning to Do It Yourself" (referring to customizing/varying skill builds).
     
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  9. vesiinabox

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    With that same concept wouldn't playing gamez at all be well the same thing? lol Even if it is a stigma server. And just saying after coming from siel to lumiel i was expecting a challenge all i got was a whole lot of lols cus 90% of the people couldnt fight half as well as the ones on siel...maybe its the extra skills idk...but went back to siel got too bored <_< but well i hear all the pros have left anyways. Now leveling on retail stigma server might teach you more about your class and make u actually read your skills but eh don't think gamez lumiel does. Oh yea and spiritmasters have extra spirit skills that they shouldnt have lolz on a stigma server ;3
     
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    *shrugs* I started Aion on retail, got bored of grinding. Long after, started on Crystal. Then forced to Lumiel, got bored of zerging. Lately reactivate my retail account. So my mentality on the game has always revolved around mirroring the original concepts. Might differ for other people who've played Gamez for their entire Aion duration.

    You're playing a SM, as you mentioned gains no specific advantage on Siel. However it is this factor that makes them generally strong on Lumiel because they only need couple of specific skills to do well.
    Many classes are more "challenging" on Siel because they get more survivability, especially Chanters, Clerics, Templar and Sorcerers. Therefore its strength is pretty much uneven in fights. For example: My support cleric can tank a whole lot on Benevolent build but I basically can't kill people unless they're very undergeared. If in the same scenario, a Siel Clerics can survive and do generally better, simply using Noble Energy+Festering Wound+Blind etc, increases their ability to slowly chip down the enemy.
     
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  11. vesiinabox

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    No clerics on siel generally suck at tanking without help XD you gota remember you take waaaaaaaaaaaay more damage on siel than on lumiel chanters are much better because of two remove shocks....i think chanters gain the most from siel but every single class stays balanced vs each other...except maybe rangers...theres like no way in hell a ranger is ever gona kill a siel temp lol.
     
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    I wanna play on Lumiel too.
     
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    Most chanters, if they know what they're doing would be slotting the secondary remove shock anyways.
    *scraps the rest of the original post* I'll try to keep it back to the thread's purpose.

    Anyways back to topic, yes we should have equal encouragement to BOTH servers. The community need to help with this too, don't just go blabbing "Go Siel, more people". Should inform the differences between the servers. Go Siel for All stigmas, Go Lumiel for Stigma system. Both servers have zergs anyways, if Lumiel had more players, I'm sure more maps will have PvP, just like its old days.
     
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    lumiel get free abg set per account when hitting lvl 60 account bound lawl.
     
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    sounds nice lolz but can be work just w new players, if we talk about older players nobody cares about ABG gears, mostly of olders players including me has HAC gears, so go for lumiel just for a ABG gear not sounds interesting, also that will reduce the value from ABG sets and leave the economy on the ground, ABG sets its free to buy w medals on NPCs its true, but mostly of players are still trading sets for 2k+ creds, reduce the value of this set will create more displeasure on play gamez, not just lumiel, siel will affected too.

    so to motive to player to go there can be:
    1- Give a "Event Change Name ticket" for free to players who want to transfer to lumiel, this ticket must be untradeable and character binded. (after aplied the 1 time free acces to transfer per month)
    2- Create "permanents" rifts to heiron/beluslan and gelk/inggison, the actually rifts appears every 2 hours and dissapears after 1 hour, so we have 1 hour w no rift. make it permanent will help a more fluid pvp.
    3- Create NPCs selling consumables like recovery serums, crit strik scrolls, food and others, with kinah, will reduce the huge lots of kinah on the market also will help to players in dont waste time crafting and spend time only in pvp.
    4- release Arenas sets untill NCC for level 55, and sets level 60 with 1 conditioning, also increase the time of arena open (20 hours active and 4 hours closed per day = 10 hours active and 2 hours closed).
    5- make more items tradeables without VIP, if we cannot reduce the price of vip, make more items tradeable without it would help a lot, example: all gears lvl 55 tradeables without VIP, and all gears 56 or superiors tradeables w VIP respectively in each case. this should help to ppl to wear ABG sets and more, would help to have trades more fluids.
    6- release the creation on character races talking about the chance to have both races on 1 account, transferee will not necessary to have both races on lumiel, so we can reduce the numer of transfer "to have both races" to 0 and just have transfer of ppl really interested in play on lumiel.
    7- Create a special NPCs teleporter, a General teleporter will help to level up new characters, ignoring the level requirements, this would help to lvling a character by urself or mentoring by a friend.
    8- increase the eternal items dropped by all bosses on instances. this would help to new players to get gears. also reduce the time spent on get gears to ur character.

    i have many ideas, but i just want to comment this points for now, all these (working just on lumiel server) will help to boost the popularity again, hope so.
     
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  16. cocosul

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    why not...to create 3nd gamez server including all your opinions?:) anyway gearing is kinda hard on gamez...even with pve sets:)........but guys u forgot 1 thing....gamez is a private server and deppend by donations.....
     
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    lifetime vip = 12.000 tolls sounds better
     
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    I don't agree with any of the ideas above. When the game becomes easier, people get bored. You have to have balance so that if you make 1 thing easier, you have to make 1 other thing harder. If you want to encourage people to play on lumiel, then you need to make the 2 servers significantly different from each other. Different servers will give a different gaming experience. If 1 server is easier in "A", it should be harder in "B". If 2nd server is harder in "A" it should be easier in "B". And the list of difference should be at least 10 big things.

    Examples
    ________________Siel__________Lumiel
    Stigma................all..................partial
    Crafting.............queststolevel.....kinah to level
    Crafting.............1 500+/toon......All 7crafts can be 500+ per toon
    Voting...............50pts/day.........150 pts/day
    ABGitem.............for medals.........for credits
    PvP..................all maps open.....some maps safe
    VIP...................1500/mo...........6000/ 6mos
    Housing.............buy for kinah......buy for credits
    Housing.............all players.........premium/vip players only

    Please understand I don't mean these EXACT suggestions, but I'm trying to show how 1 server needs to be different from the other server.
     
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  19. cocosul

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    that s perfect for multivote abbusers:D 30 days....4500.....1500 transfer siel....and 3000 for trade:D . i think lumiel is low populated only because is stigma system....ppls like more full skills servers:)
     
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    Please read my post again. i'm not saying voting should be different on the servers. The examples are meant to show examples of difference.. not actual suggestions that i think should be applied.
     
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