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Fused weapons

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by raiden013, May 28, 2013.

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  1. raiden013

    raiden013 Proficient

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    i wanna suggest to the authorities in this server to enable the Trade of fused weapons again. coz its a waste of weapons if you have to remove the fused weapon just to be able to trade it or transfer to another character.

    if this is impossible then i would like an explanation why.
     
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    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    I am curious as to what you mean by "again" since they never have been tradeable. As for the reason why, it is not really their fault but NCsoft's as the restriction is client side. Fused weapons are not a part of the items.pak due to the insane number of potential combinations, so the restrictions cannot be removed by editing the items.pak since the game handles this elsewhere (they basically force an untradeable state on everything fused according to the official NA site, it is an override that cannot be removed by a simple edit).

    Believe me, I tried xd If I ever do find where they force this I will let you know, but I have a feeling it is not part of any of the easily editable xml files or I would have found it by now. Took apart most of the client already.
     
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    ohh they were never tradable in gamez?? i was probably thinking about the other server i tried. a few years back.. i forgot the name of the server.
     
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    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    I am curious about this since as far as I know, no server in existence today supports trading of fused weapons. If you find one, let me know.
     
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    Imagine somebody coding down all those potential combinations of weapons one by one rofl. Would you do that if you were given a million dollars smartik? XD
     
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    I wouldn't since that would be stupid. First of all, the file would be 10s of gb big, it would crash any editor I try to use, wouldn't fit on my harddrive atm and the game wouldn't even be able to load it because it wasn't designed to.

    I would be more likely to dig for the override and remove it there so no fused weapon would be untradeable.
     
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    Would it be possible to edit like getting the fused item instead of it disappearing when u defuse it?
     
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    Isin Zerg me plox Forum Legend

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    weird thing is lol on retail you can trade the fused items but here you cant. Someone explain that.
     
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    Nope, Alente said back then that there is a problem with item IDs when you fuse a weapon. Basically the bottom weapon ceases to exist and becomes just another parameter of the first weapon (like manastones, enh level etc). You can't get the original ID back so there is no way of knowing what the other weapon was to return it.

    Since when? I am positive you can't, unless it is related to those new stupid tickets that allow trading of untradeables, but that is because they override client restrictions using that. Either way I have seen people trading all sorts of things with those except for fused weapons.
     
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    i see oh well

    ps: now you can reply to malc's post without editing your recent post :)
     
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    They finally removed double posts and merge them like the old forum years ago? Took them long enough
     
  12. Isin

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    Every since I started back playing retail i've seen people trading items that are fused. Only thing is you need those passes in order to trade those untradeables not alot of people have them and on some servers they are almost non-existent e.e no trading fused/untradeables lol
     
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    On Tiamat there is a lot of trading with those passes, but haven't seen anybody sell fused weapons yet so not sure if they work that way or not. I am curious if those passes work here, they most likely aren't even coded server side yet. It would theoretically be possible to trade fused weapons using those, but either way, you still won't be able to put the item in your account warehouse until you edit client side.
     
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    I smell $$$ for passes to trade fused weapons. :)
    if it works that is
     
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    Isin Zerg me plox Forum Legend

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    yea those passes are gold. Lol thats how i got my first GCD piece. Im getting the rest through that shugo event
     
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    I wouldn't be so sure, there are major problems with that xd For example:
    1. Passes stack, anything stackable used to be and possibly will be duped
    2. It will effectively bypass any VIP requirement (multivoter heaven or if you make it too expensive people would just buy another wep rather than spend on passes), unless you make passes usable only by VIP accounts and make them untradeable even with VIP so people can't move them even if they wanted to.
     
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    just more reasons for people to move to retail lmao
     
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    Not so much, they just mass banned a lot of rich kids for real money trading xd Also prices of everything are getting inflated like crazy. New gear takes over 500 of the new medals for accessories without helm, a ring costs over 800k AP (last one cost 350k), everything is becoming ridiculously unfordable. Not to mention how much 4.0 is gonna ruin any remaining sense of balance xd
     
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    yea i understand but the thing is lol Rich kids would be smarter they could do what im doing. This is what i was explaining to you before. [​IMG]
    shugo event reset scrolls. Thats only 8 out of the ones i went through and i still got plenty of more to buy probably 200 more actually.(from the bcm)

    Just keep spamming that and in a week or so after doing it before the event ends.=full gcd/acd accessories weapons gear everything lmao.
     
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    Guess just another way this game became pay 2 play. No idea where you got so many, they sell for $3 each (if I add the tax and screwed up exchange rate then even more)

    EDIT: Damn just say they actually started selling an exchange NPC summon scroll for relics >.> Money sure gets you anything in that game.

    EDIT2: JUst realized they can buy up keys too to get even more relics from those chests. When this event ends they will go back to buying gear for AP extraction to get ranks or buy the gear from others >.> Yea depressing.
     
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