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Why VIP should be changed in PvP

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by unbreakable, Jul 27, 2013.

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  1. unbreakable

    unbreakable Banned

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    Hello,

    Just wanted to suggest something quickly about how I think VIP is unfair when it comes to PvP.

    Problem

    DP (Divine Power) is gained through experience points. For example, low level monsters give low amounts of DP to level 60 players. Killing a boss probably instantly gets you from 0 to 4k DP (assuming the boss is actually a bit high of a level, if not lvl 60).

    In PvP, players gain DP by killing players from the other race. By default (normal rates, no vip/premium), it takes about ~5 kills+ to get 2k DP, which is fine since it's like that for everyone, and it's not bad (5 kills for 2k DP).

    But..if someone has VIP, which many players have, they get DP approximately x2 to x2.5 faster, allowing players to get 2k DP in about 3 kills, if not 2. Similarly, they can kill like 3-4 monsters in that PvP area, and get 2k DP (takes seconds >.>).

    My point is..classes with OP DP skills have a major advantage when it comes to this, because they get to use their DP many times (as long as the CD is not long).

    For instance, my main character is a ranger, and rangers have one of the best DP skills, Mau Form. If I were to have VIP, I would have Mau Form almost all the time.

    Reminder:
    Mau Form
    10 seconds cooldown.
    Cost: 2k DP
    Lasts 2 minutes
    Description:
    Transforms you into a Mau Warrior, giving the player +13% Physical Attack, +39% Attack Speed, +39% Running Speed while transformed.


    When I PvP in Gelkamores, I notice that many rangers use Mau Form, and that is a major disadvantage to me, and other players.

    VIP is about having higher rates for things, such as Exp, Ap, etc. It also gives players the ability to trade items. That's the ONLY things it should be doing, not giving some classes major advantages by increasing their DP much faster. It was not made to affect PvP in terms of gameplay.


    My Suggestion

    VIP increases all XP rates, allowing players to gain more XP in PvP, resulting in higher DP gains.

    I believe that GamezAion should modify VIP in the server, so that whether a player has VIP or not, they gain the same amount of XP when killing other players, making the DP gain the same for everyone. This way, all the DP rates are the same for everyone, and nobody has an advantage in PvP by getting VIP.

    THIS WILL ONLY AFFECT THE DP EARNED WHEN PVPING. TO ALL THOSE PvErs, and CRAFTERS, YOUR DP EARNED WILL STILL BE THE SAME. SO IF YOU HAVE VIP AND YOU PVE, YOU WILL STILL GET THAT HIGH DP YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GETTING.

    Thanks for taking the time to read,
    Godofwound
     
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  2. shouji13

    shouji13 Giblet Gravy~

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    counter suggestion... get vip =D
     
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  3. Frix

    Frix 고독한 Forum Legend

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    Get VIP and stahp crying.
     
  4. unbreakable

    unbreakable Banned

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    Coming from a VIP member on the forums, I wouldnt be surprised if you are a donator to the server. I'm sure you love having that higher DP rate, ha?

    P.S. I'm a ranger, and we have one of the most OP DP skills, and I can get VIP. I'm just trying to make PvP fair for everyone.
     
  5. Frix

    Frix 고독한 Forum Legend

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    Fair PVP here. Funny.
     
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  6. unbreakable

    unbreakable Banned

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    You call..having mau form half of the time is fair? Everyone, I have found the VIP player, that was easy.
     
  7. YhiPhil

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    actually, having vip = offers many things and one of them is getting more DP from mobs or player kill, Didn't you think about the crafters who wants to morph things for his/her crafting? Well just like me, I'm getting the VIP status for TRADING and MORPHING coz' VIP = higher DP which means easier for me to gather MORE THINGS to craft than the usual non-vip status. You choose play in this server, don't complain about the things they offer.
     
  8. unbreakable

    unbreakable Banned

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    They can get higher DP in other things, idgaf tbh lol. I'm making only one point, and that is VIP changes PvP a bit, giving advantages to those who have VIP. If you kill other players for morphing, you're the 1% here.

    P.S. I have been playing here for over 4-5 years+.
     
  9. YhiPhil

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    dude, i tell you. YOUR point is a TRASH one..
     
  10. Badrobot

    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    Not gonna happen. There are times that i have to craft consumables (every few months) and im like "fk yea, good thing im vip" cause i hate the normal DP gain rate and with VIP it is so much easier. I dislike your suggestion and i also have 1 tip for you. If you wanna be successful in this game you should get vip every month. Spending vote points on items is just plain dumb, been there done that. VIP is gold in gamezaion.
     
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  11. unbreakable

    unbreakable Banned

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    My suggestion would not affect you, they can modify only the xp gained when killing other players. You'll still get the same amount of DP, so sit back and quit QQing lol

    Re-read my suggestion again. It will ONLY affect the DP earned in PVP. You craft consumables when pvping??
    Your DP gain when killing other monsters will still be the same.
     
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  12. Akikaze

    Akikaze Elohim, Essaim...I implore you Forum Legend

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    That is a pretty valid suggestion but the practicalities in implication might be difficult. Also can affect incentives VIP gives in general.
    Essentially Rangers are pretty much the only class that benefits greatly from having this increased DP gain. The buff is 10second cooldown meaning someone who PvPs on Ranger with VIP gets permanent Mau Form. Only other class to have this low cooldown DP skill are Gladiators with their 10sec cd stumble skill.

    It is not about what is "fair" but what is the supposed gameplay, there are many things that are in need of fixing. Eg Pulling into a Pull or Stumbling a Pulled target. All these things need to be addressed if it found to be affecting gameplay and not perform with designed functions.

    Edit: Also guys, if you want to discuss over who has the better argument. Please phrase it in the topic of the discussions and not personal attacks.
     
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  13. YhiPhil

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    ohh, look who says stop QQing there ..

    *you might wanna try it :D* <-- best suggestion evah
     
  14. Llama

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    Lol i remember those times where 1 mob = full dp. Rangers on mau 24/7, Sorcs spamming a 2k dp spell that hits 20k+ damage.

    Anyhow, this thread ain't gonna work for a change for sure.
     
  15. unbreakable

    unbreakable Banned

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    VIP rangers still have mau form 24/7. Whether they implement my suggestion or not, that'll be up to them.
     
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    Yes, what about the rangers that get vip in order to be in mau form at all times, or the people who morph while pvping (including me)? If they do that, less people would start buying vip resulting to less credits spent in the server/less donations. They have already messed up the VIP drop rates, they should leave the rest as they are. And it is not only rangers who need DP in pvp, all the classes do and the faster you can get it the bigger your advantage. On my templar i always try to get max DP in order to have a few essential skills available, because you never know when you ll get zerged and, im sure having VIP saved me more than i know.
     
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    unbreakable Banned

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    You just backed my point up. Your enemies are at a disadvantage due to you having DP pretty much all the time.
     
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    That's a good thing for me because im always vip. The point of buying vip is to have an advantage over other people, and that's exactly what people want. Nobody would ever buy VIP if they started removing stuff from it, at first they messed up the boss drop rates so that a boss could only drop 1 weapon no matter if you had vip/premium or not, now if they mess this up too nobody will even bother buying VIP i guess. And why do you even bother, just get VIP lol.

    Who would even buy vip if it didnt provide some advantages, eh?
     
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    It should give you an advantage by having higher rates to level up faster, earn AP faster, and give you the ability to trade items. I doubt it was made to affect PvP like this. Changing that one thing is not gonna kill VIP, and make it useless. It just makes PvP how it should be, and fair for everyone.

    Also, not everyone is a donator, 1500 credits takes a while to get.
     
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  20. Meanz

    Meanz Tonight, we CHILL in Hell! Forum Legend

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    Pretty much what he said. I can't imagine myself morphing w/o VIP. That would take ages.

    VIP brings many nice stuff to the table. Don't think it's a good idea to change it nor there is any need to.
     
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