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Gunner's Damage

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by jasper1884, Oct 21, 2013.

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  1. ianleocolcel

    ianleocolcel Proficient

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    3 heals in just a second.... WTF...... instant????
     
  2. vesiinabox

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    lol he uses all 3 chain skills before the others even finish, and his debuffs hitting you look like ur getting nuked by a gunner XD ..he cant play at all though just spams shit so its no real big deal lol same on his gunner just spam spam spam with no animation.
     
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  3. linusk19

    linusk19 Ozh acha voizh.

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    Gunner is the WORST CLASS and the most BORING CLASS. and I don't even know why do people enjoys killing with hit run hit run reload hit run hit run reload. a class with few animation skills[Steady fire, Hemorrhage Shot, Spinning Fire and Precision Shot(which is very useless in full stigma server)] and the other skills just run and press the button and viola you have gained 100k AP.
     
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  4. Decrypter

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    I have to disagree with you Razor, Assassin's damage is quite nice but doesn't compare with gunner's dmg. Gunners hit way harder than sin's the only advantage sin's have is the stealth and stuns, but gunners their dmg calculation is way off... they don't hit this hard in retail...even a noob gunners can melt your HP away in seconds the class is unbalanced and OP atm.
     
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  5. Witch

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    No offence but alot of people overrate amb gear It really isn't that much better then HAC I kill amb players as almost faster then I kill HAC players.

    The only big difference with the new items would be the shepherds accessories and shepherd weapons which are worth buying cause the stat change is way bigger then then acc accessoeries and hac weapons but meh amb really isn't tbh.
     
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    No, not really. As I've said in recent post, since 4.0 I've jumped back on official Aion playing it once again & even while using my maxed lvl Templar (w/ great PvP sets/gears) I can assure you or anyone else that Gunners have arguably one of the most, if not the most insane DPS in Aion right now.

    Even Gunners with only semi-quality gear can produce damage that other classes with equal or greater gears wouldn't even be able to touch.

    If confronting Gunners on official and my Iron Skin was on cooldown (which is stupidly long) I simply watch my life disappear in no time & having an MR set is an absolute must (another stupid mandatory thing).

    Still, in my opinion, this "can" be a "winnable" fight if you're a Templar, however your weaving has to be legendary & you have to pick the right times for your skills...which is again terrible considering how easy it is for the Gunner to play and fight against a Templar in contrast which is bs.

    However I don't want people to sit here and think that a Templar can roll over a Gunner, which is far from the truth, unlike Gunners whom have relatively short cds, Temps have insane cds on their best defensive skills, so if you run into one while having the majority of their defensive skills on cd, goodbye.

    So for me personally, a Templar vs Gunner 1v1 w/ No CDs on skills yet, it can be winnable, however 1v1 when many of your defensive skills are on cd....gg.

    Glads however have it much worse then Temp players, because I've seen Gunners on official melt Glads in like 4 seconds or less, which is absolutely retarded. What pisses me off the most about Gunners is the fact they are magic based & thus being so makes it so they inherently have good MA which makes dealing with their skills that much more frustrating.

    As for Razors comments on Assassins I simply disagree. Again, I don't know if this is implemented in Gamez but on official...auto-attacks are now nerfed in terms for PvP damage since 4.0 & due to that, weaving in itself is less beneficial.

    It bridges closer the gaps of great players to just okay players however it also nerfs very heavy weaving reliant classes but say for a class like Sins, this hits them hard, since a great portion of their damage is off of auto-attacks, so in no way are they in the same field as Gunners.

    The only reason why I won't say anything for Gamez Aion Gunners is because my lack of knowledge fighting them on here (I've only played here for about a month) & I don't know the differentials between official vs here.

    However "if" they are a close resemblance to their official counterparts & we have instant access to things like APP right from the get go & easier accessibility to the top-tier weapons...:sick:, I wouldn't be surprised if they are producing off the wall damage.

    It's not a coincidence that naturally good based MA classes also happen to arguably be the best classes in general for Aion...should we be surprised anymore.
     
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  7. Akikaze

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    Okies lets go over this slowly.

    First of all, all of the socerer's nukes are scaled to purposely do less damage on Player targets. Their damage is reduced by ~50%. In comparing to sorcerer's skills is mostly a null point due to this factor. With exception to Balaur Seeker which is currently bugged and treating all enemy targets as balaur. This is also why Songweaver's Treble Cleave seems to hit as hard as Storm Strike because Treble Cleave doesn't have a reduction scaling and deals 100% on players.

    Gunners do actually dish out very high damage on retail. Watch some Gunslinger videos on youtube and you'll see them destroying poor souls in matter of seconds. Don't forget that Gamez has a slightly different innate pvp reduction as pointed out by Momo. Also that most people start off with free PvP accessories now meaning even beginners can deal moderate damage on PvP geared targets.

    Lastly, Gunslingers have 2 buffs that actively boost their damage to players. Pressurized Chamber and Stopping Power grants extra PvP damage, in combination with their extra damage effects, that's like ~30% extra overall damage.
     
  8. samurai

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    OK....TRY IT WITH 300-400 PING..... also consider that many here don't have a precious ping like urs...

    SO MUCH AGREE WITH THIS..............................their not just cheaters, their also gays....can't fight 1v1......LOL and also they zerg even they played gunners LOLS.....
     
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  9. Bordy

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    Hmm never played a gunner... Oh hey Laptops!
     
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    Its ok if ur full hac. but me using only ACD gear & w/ no MR stone, there some instances i have a hard time killing full amb especially those skilled one but many amb users i've killed in 1v1. what im trying to say in previous comment "Vesiinabox" claimed he killed 1 party of full amba gunners? have u tried that 1 party full amb? mybe if those players AFK or lagging in 900ms.roFL
     
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    Yeah, that's been pointed out, genius. Way to contribute to the topic.

    Also, I think most people like to complain because they're just bad. Gunners are squishy as hell, just burst them. I kill them on my sin all the time.
     
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    That also has been pointed out. That makes us both a genius I guess.

    Have a nice day. :)
     
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    Those guys are ridiculous. It's mainly because they're in a group as to why they kill so fast. They mostly zerg anyway, at least. I killed a group of three a few times today, they had mid-rate gear. One of them got a few crits in after a para and almost killed me in a second. Their damage calculation isn't off, so much as just inconsistent.
     
  14. vesiinabox

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    I know hes hacking 100% i bought full amba gear for my gunner and for those who dont know i have between 9-28 ms ping in gamez. Now vash lives in japan meaning hes got 180+ ping even if he claims to have under 20..which would be northern usa/canada ping. So tell me why when i use the combo it takes me 4 seconds while it only takes him 2 for more skills than im using
    Hac weapons are still better unless u can get a +15 anx even then it might be a 2-3% dmg increase if any...
     
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  15. cocosul

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    nah balaur seeker is not bugged on pvp....it do much lower dmg than others fire nukes....it s bugged on pve...no additional dmg on balaur mobs. glacial hit crit is kinda 1.5x more than balaur seeker...I m doing dlr a lot so I m not wrong. about pvp...balaur dmg is fine... other nukes hit more than it. oh well...maybe is buged on asmo side god know..
     
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    It is bugged not just the damage, but it is not supposed to knockback your opponent in pvp either.
    And it does too much damage in pvp because its saying oh all things are balaurs...that's also why it doesn't do extra dmg in pve...see ?
     
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  17. cocosul

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    I pvp a lot and flame spray do more dmg on asmos than balaur seeker allways....bcs is a bit more fire dmg.. maybe is buged on asmo side. about stun no idea never noticed if stun or not......anyway most op skill ever was signet of sin I remember 2 years ago could hit me 8'9 k^^
     
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    Either you're full of shit or you just killed shit?
     
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    Goonner high dmg, nerf now gm !!!!!!
     
  20. Razor

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    Autoattacks haven't been nerfed on Gamez yet so I'm sticking to my argument.

    Also, I guess most plate mains have forgotten what a good MB sorc does to their HP bars.. (shred); The only thing I agree with is that Gunners are easy and too rewarding for the skill they require. It's just that Aion is so rock-paper-scissors and a lot of you can't see the whole picture.
     
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