for pro glad only

Reflecting shield buffs.

 

He didnt have one, no buffs at all, i just keep on hitting him and I recieve lots of damage, its like fighting a sorc with wintry armor buff on.

 

crit/mr/ma (gs if you've got high ping) spear if othervise=cool shit.

//facepalm

 

probably its Barricade

@s1ngl3: dont be mean u paki

 

do u even play aion?

 

more advice plx

 

I have read so many things regarding this subject.i would assume crit and attack are very good choices :3

 

@vesi: yes, why?

 

ty very much

 

Dear god, if Hoppy saw this thread he'd break his face from facepalming at all of these comments. Seriously people...

Ok lets start at the basics:
Weapons. And by that i mean the Greatsword vs Spear dilemma.

1)TL;DR (you mongrel.):
Greatsword > Spear.

2)Medium long, too lazy and cannot into basic math (you mongrel.):
Greatsword > Spear cause the base stats of the spear are easier to "replicate" with manastones than a greatsword's.

3)And now the long version:
Non-extend (godmode arbiter stats as an example ofc.)
- Greatsword has + 100 accuracy, +40 parry, - 0.2 atk speed, 24 damage difference between min and max meaning you always do the same amount of damage.
- Spear has +39* attack, +40 crit, + 0.2 atk speed, 302 damage difference between min and max meaning you can do -150 damage than a greatsword OR +150 more on the SAME SKILL. With a spear you are relying on RNG and that's not what you do if you wanna pretend you're "good" at the class.

To get the greatsword's 100 accuracy with composite stones you'd need 7 x/accuracy +14 stones.
To get the greatsword's 40 parry (you are a horrible person for going parry) you'd need 3 x/parry + 14 stones.
That makes 10 manastones to get the base stuff of a greatsword (without the attack speed, you're forever cursed to have 1.4 with a spear)

To get the spear's 40crit you'd need 2 crit+19/x manastones OR 4 x/crit+9.
The attack on spear is kinda useless since it never hits exact numbers, but lets just add it for the heck of it - 8 atk+5/x manastones or 20 x/atk+2 (you're a horrible person if you go atk+2).

Extendable (DDL as an example, the 65 extend has pretty much the same stats +7/5/10 on random stuff)
- Greatsword has +50 accuracy, +40 parry, - 0.2 atk speed and a 21 damage difference between min/max.
- Spear has + 32* attack, + 40 crit strike, +0.2 atk speed and a 250 damage difference between min/max.

To get the greatsword's +50 accuracy you'd need 3 x/accuracy + 14 stones.(-8)
To get the greatsword's +40 parry (don't) you'd need 3 x/parry + 14 stones. (+2)
That makes 6 manastones to equalize the stat difference and when it comes to extendables and their lower stats you ALWAYS need more accuracy.

To get the spear's 40crit you'd need 2 crit+19/x manastones OR 4 x/crit+9.
That makes 2(4) manastones to equalize the difference.

K with that done lets move on to the next part:


Manastone builds:

1) Atk/Crit = this is mostly a pve build cause you'd be lacking accuracy for pvp, but if you add some atk/acc or crit/acc it CAN be decent (it's also what i was using until recently with 5 parts being atk/crit and 2 being atk/accuracy). If your whole set has +5 atk that gets you an extra 205/210 (extend/non-extend) damage per hit and 369/378 for crits. In pvp that gives around 120 per hit and 200 per crit. Like a permanent +30% physical damage buff skill. And YES attack does affect skill damage NOT just autoattacks.

2) Crit/Mr or just MR = this build is meant for pvp and it goes around having normal damage and crit + around 2.4-2.6k mres depending on your gear. This will NOT resist sorcs/sms/songweavers/gunslingers, it is to prevent gettings debuffs from temps/chanters/gladiators/sins/rangers/clerics and the lovely godstones.

3) Crit/accuracy, atk/accuracy - Anti-cleric and templar build, don't think i've seen anyone with it so far but it's for people who had horrible memories of fighting the above mentioned classes.

4) Magic accuracy - this is for godstone heroes who run around with 10% silence/blind stones (and a damned spear) and ruin people's lives. Also used by baddies because "BUT ANKLE SNARE IS MAGIC ACCURACY BASED".

5) Parry - The only way this build would be useful is in Siel with a gov set(high base parry), because the skills you need to be effective with parry are not worth taking over the more important ones in Lumiel. Considering that gladiators are pretty good versus physical classes and really weak against magic-based ones this build doesn't help you that much and is overall weak, BUT it is relatively easy to go parry in 4.0 due to spin block/repose and the new gear. If you can't get to 3.4-3.5k don't bother.

6) HP - Even if you go full hp with +100 stones that would give you 4k total which is 2-5 hits more. Since you don't have crit or accuracy the fight will be longer and the opponent will have more than enough time to do that extra 4k damage on you. It's just bad.

7) Block - kill yourself.

8) Flight time - Sniffing Aether Powder is illegal and bad for your health, don't do it kiddies.

These are the 3 viable builds right now:
http://aion.aspirine.su/#!fsE2jKl
1 - PVE build, works with a spear too
2 - Mr build, as you can see you have 2,6k accuracy and with zerking that will go down to 2.4k which is pretty low
3 - Crit/Acc, Atk/Acc - the PVP version of the first build

Also note that this does not include consumables. With a crit scroll and food you'd be looking at an extra 180 crit + 60 accuracy (and another 59 from woc2) OR 60 MR and 60 elemental defence (if using balic food).


Stigma builds (Lumiel):
http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#cCnaofhhBiadaBbaBeacanewd
This is the must have, alternatives for the other 3 slots are:
1) absorbing fury + piercing rupture (or shattering wave) + Severe Weakening blow (SWB)
Pros: High damage, decent healing from the aoe (luring mobs in pvp can give up to 2k per hit) also good if you have low accuracy
Cons: No ankle snare for pvp (you can put it on elyos instead of shattering wave)
2) piercing rupture (or swb) + advanced dual wielding + sharp strike
Pros: Sharp strike does decent damage with a short cooldown and animation, good as a filler skill between attacks.
Cons: Lower surviveability due to the lack of absorbing fury. You're also wasting a stigma slot for a useless passive just to get sharp strike.




Stats and random horrible myths.
1) Attack manastones do not affect skills - wrong.

2) Crit strike caps at 50% - wrong.

From 0 crit to 440 crit = 10 Crit -> 1% chance
440-550 = 20 Crit -> 1%
550-660 = 50 Crit -> 1%
660 and above = 100 Crit -> 1%
Meaning that you can get to 100% in theory, but in reality you don't have enough manastone sockets for that.
In 4.0 geared people have 453 strike resist meaning you gotta have 1033 crit strike to get 50,1% crit chance. Deal with it.

3) Accuracy increases your crit chance - while not exactly "true" it does reduce your chance to get blocked/parried/evaded and since you can't do a "critical block" (lolwat) it sort of increases your crit chance.

4) Magic accuracy increases random stumble rate - sadly this is true and vice versa - mr reduces the chance you'd get stumbled/knockbacked (bows).

5) Spear on female chars has faster animations than greatsword - nope, it only looks like that, the same way a smaller char looks faster than a taller one yet isn't.





K i'm done time to masturbate. Remember kiddies - always use lockdown on a cleric so he can't jumpmace you.

 

Nice Guide

insanitybg ​

 

Agreed a Good Guide with an Attitude :biggrin:

 

donating is the best for all class...

 

[h=3]FULL Arbiter Sets FTWwwwwww.........:kewl: = more money for Gamezzz:ninja:[/h]

 

hehee... he explained many things ... and many of the things he said people have doubts .. so it was a good guide. I particularly knew that everything he said because i play Glad a long time, but as I said before a lot of people have this doubt and he was clear in explaining everything. :biggrin:

LMAO.. this new sets so OP

 

Often we do not see who actually know how to play, even those only famous, but may have others that are not known who may know more than the ''Owners of Aion''

 

This thread messed up my mind about playing as gladiator, hoppy said spear is the best for glad now insanity goes for greatsword and someone also commented if you have high ping better go for greatsword and yeah i have 230-300 ms. WHAT WILL I DO NOW? @_@

 

Ok, i was actually laughing at about every post here beside yours and Zaitou's i think.

As for Gladiator build.. the only good Gladiator build since 4.0 is Crit/MR + MR = less CC = more DMG.

As for weapon i prefer Spear since it has more crit over Greatsword = more MR + it's a 4-strike weapon ;D + it looks cooler yo!

Believe who you wanna believe, we're both top tier Gladiators beside that he clicks his Second Wind :'D

 

........I said mr fk u all lol

 

i was waiting for you comment since this morning (8 hours ago) .. why you no put long long long guide for him