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for pro glad only

Discussion in 'Questions' started by kadok09, Nov 18, 2013.

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  1. kadok09

    kadok09 Banned

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    wahahaha .ty bro
    ahha
     
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  2. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    Cus its not needed obviously best build now is MR and crit.........
     
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    niwangkig i ♥ Remix

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    i think both of spear and gs.. or depend for how pro of you on glad its up to you.
     
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    Momo Arrogant Member Forum Legend

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    Sorry was sleeping, im not really into this stats and other stuff i just know how to play that's it, if it's about stats and shit listen to instanitybg
     
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    I was gonna suggest something then i read the title again "for PRO glad only", oh shiz nevermind i'm bad.
     
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    Grrr Highly Damaging Member Forum Legend

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    Well if you've got high ping it is kinda "better" to use greatsword since it will be faster. Still in order of speeds it goes like this (slowest to fastest):
    High ping Spear > High Ping Greatsword > Low ping Spear > Low ping Greatsword.

    Buy me a naga and I'll even keybind return :eek:
    Yeah i'm the guy that squeezes out every possible stat yet uses lockdown on casters ingame cause I don't need to play my best here.


    Hmm okay i'm bored gonna add some more stuff and the stigma builds.
     
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    ty allm.:::::::::::::::::::
     
  8. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    You start using body combo here your most likely gona be called a hacker cus ur doin so much dps lolol........sad really >_>
     
  9. Akikaze

    Akikaze Elohim, Essaim...I implore you Forum Legend

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    The greatsword vs polearm debate for Gladiators have been going on ever since this game was released. There is always a split census on which is the better weapon. Generally it doesn't matter which weapon you pick, both have their ups and downs. Insanitybg covered some aspects, I'd like to add in some of my own.

    Looking at the very basic attack range of the weapon, it's about consistency.
    Polearm has a way higher flux of attack range, ranging from low to extremely high. It is not to say the weapon will always hit the high end, it is simply the RNG (Random number generator) aspect of the game. There is a chance to hit high or low end damage in one attack. Some players doubt this inconsistency attack scaling and is the same principle to using RNG based skills, you can 4 hit KO someone or just take the normal 7hits or even the misfortune 10hits.

    On the other hand, Greatsword's attack range is very narrow so you can expect more consistent damage scaling with each hit. Even the weapon properties with higher accuracy, low crit display factors that this weapon is less reliant on chance. Lower Attack speed is the factor which is often taken into consideration for losing spike damage. Having a better aspd means you can generally just attack faster and make up for the damage spikes. This is why some low ping players prefer Greatswords, simply because it is a boost to their low delay environment.

    1) Attack stones does affect skills BUT it does not SCALE with skills is the important point. Attack from Non-weapon sources counts as "equipment bonus" in the attack formula. Therefore bonus from Idians/food/manastones will be added after the damage scaling is calculated and simply flat damage bonus. Getting +100 atk from 20x +5atk stones will grant you damage+100.

    2) Ever since the introduction of Strike Resist, the crit formula got altered slightly. You still get diminishing returns as you slot higher crit. However the critical chance formula is now an exponential, with ~50% as the soft cap. Though it makes no difference how much critical you slot, you will not be having 70% crit chance on someone with minimal strike resist. Overall chance is always chance.

    3) I hate it when people goes Accuracy increase Crit. Like you said it's an indirect relation. If you can have 100crit total and 3000accuracy hitting someone with 2000block. It is a guarantee hit for accuracy but it doesn't mean that 10% crit will increase any further than 10%. It only works if your opponent has an Accuracy blocking stat against your favour.

    4) I think this got fixed actually. It's so easy to knockdown players without any form of MA. Infact, crit is still the ultimate factor as a crit hit have higher chance to stumble players. Bow's Knockbacks on the other hand is still MA/crit determined.

    5) While Female character animations might not be faster. There is minor animation differences between the weapons (aspd aside). Eg Shock Wave, GS will cause your char to "hover" and spin slowly, whilst PA will be spinning faster without the random "hover".
     
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  10. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    The whole thing with attack builds is that compared to other stats you could be using its generally useless on the average gamez player...
     
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    1) I didn't say it scales and yeah it doesn't. The only thing that scales with buffs is base damage (the white number) and that's the weapon + fuse bonus + passives + enchanting bonus (not working here, check muh retardedly long post in the bug section for the numbers). I'm sure it SHOULD be counted in cause when you enchant a weapon it's the white value that gets increased, not the green.

    2) I don't see why you wouldn't get 70% crit on someone without strike resist besides the fact that it would take 2,410 crit strike to do so.

    3) Well to put it simply it "prevents your crit from decreasing" then...

    4) Nope as hell, i got chainstumbled 5 times in a row from weaving and when i finally got up i got hit with a 5sec para. In all my time here i've never gotten more than 2 random kds in a row and that was in 2.x when the rate was completely broken. And another time i got 3 stumbles in a row. These are all in UD mind you.
     
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    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    Its cus our devs use MA/Mr instead of random chances....its just like chanter stuns they are supposed to be physical with random chance , but instead they are based off players ma and mr, same with all stumbles (now what akikaze says might be true for a retail server definitely not here)....same way with godstones based from ma and mr.
     
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    ty all.all pros
     
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    Don't you feel like a kid when mom and dad are having a fight?
     
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    Go for MB 4 parts/ The rest Spell crit= God of Glad
     
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    Vebryandimaz Soul Gamezaionfamily

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    mybe.and u?guillermo.wt a name
     
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    mybe ur dad face is full mb.nyahahaha
     
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    What is the best weapon of gladiator polearm or greatsword?
    What is the good armfuse arbiter's and?
     
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