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Shieldburst/Swordstorm

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by hitokirifake, Dec 10, 2013.

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  1. hitokirifake

    hitokirifake meeoooww....

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    its all about few days ago when im back playing as temp whenever im using shieldburst/swordstorm the enemy wont to stumble...i know the answer is all because UD skill in warrior class but if other class?? other class also have some buffs that can prevent them from get stumbles but im pretty sure they dun yet using those buffs/skills....so it is just happen to me or anyone else just got this experience..
     
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    No, all the Templar make the same mistake when using Doon Lure / Illusion Chains can not try to take down first, have to wait a few seconds for it to start using the skill to take down, because when the player is puchado he gets by about a few seconds which leaves him be stunned. =)
     
  3. hitokirifake

    hitokirifake meeoooww....

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    oh i see....cuz last time im playing as a temp those 2 pulling skills does not effect shieldburst and swordstorm..
     
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    I love when the templars use Shieldburst/Swordstorm after the pull... I'm already play templar and i wore Doon wore Lure / Illusion Chains and hoped seconds to start charging the Shieldburst / Swordstorm and always work ... :)
     
  5. Stephen

    Stephen I always chill bruh

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    Maybe you were lag sir, or something like that,
     
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    Cjxiv Emperor's Eye Forum Legend

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    Nope sir, As what Thyller said, you have to wait for a second to charge the sword storm / shieldburst, Or instead of wasting a second, better use weaking blow(not sure about the name) :eek:
     
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    Stephen I always chill bruh

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    Awww, ok sir, thank you for giving me ideas good sir.
     
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    It's happen with all, when you use Doon Lure/Illusion Chains the enemy gets 2 ''debuffs'' - Doon Lure I / Illusin Chains I and ''Capture'' not allowing it to be stunned...
     
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    Weakening Blowjob

    hue~
     
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    For as long as the enemy has the lure debuff, chances are that you wont be able to stumble him (though sometimes they still get stumbled). So you can use a combo before trying to shieldburst them. I have my own combos but i won't share them here, try to find your own :devil:

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    in Lumiel, some people don't get the shieldburst stigma, only relying on sword storm for kd. Is there any reason for this? I'd imagine 2 knockdowns are better than 1...
     
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    Some temps that I had fought cant stumble me but some does even I used the evade buff, or natures resolve/Illusion
     
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    Shieldburst cant miss..
     
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    There are several reasons why you cannot immediately stumble targets on Templar.

    The most common reason (like others have mentioned) is any Pull type skills, mainly Doom Lure and Illusion Chains, when used on enemies will caused a short (2sec) paralyze during which they cannot be stunned/stumble/knockback.

    Another reason is some classes have passive/active skills that boost their stumble resist. Besides the commonly known warrior's Unwavering Devotion, there are several other skills.

    Clerics have both passive and active skill (Prayer of Focus) that boosts their stumble resistance. Chanters have Protective Ward. Both scout classes have Calming Whisper, while Assassins also gets Break Away. And generally any class that has Shield-like skills will block stumble effects as well, so need to break Mages, Songweaver and Clerics' shields before it'll work.
     
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    I think this is for a better balancing of classes.
    If I'm wrong please correct me. :)
     
  16. hitokirifake

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    well i took this as reminder when i try to shieldburst/swordstorm my enemy...but pretty weird when full buff temp cant take down a gunner >.<...
     
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    I think maybe Gunners have a buff stunned/stumble/knockback. I dont know...
     
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    Due to the limited amount of stigma slots, there are several more useful skills that prioritises over another stumble skill.

    Shield Burst is limited to only used with shield, it has limited range. Combo'ing Shield Counter and Provoking Shield Counter can fulfill the same role if using Shields for Knockdown. Slotting Shieldburst also means Punishing Wave, a lackluster long cooldown AoE snare that misses more than lands, takes up another stigma slot.
     
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    they do miss sometimes, sometimes I do resist them, but I guess it depends on their gear and thier build and buffs. Im not sure, coz Im not a temp
     
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    Fho qwertqwert is the power

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    Same problem. one trick just dont cast any of those skill if you enemy dont move dont use 2 pulling skills in a row btw this is same for the punishing wave you cant root the enemy if this enemy dont move after you pulled him, but i tried from other server these combos like pull then use punishing wave it works only on gamez templar have a problem.
     
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