Debate of departing Lumiel. Your thoughts?

I have been on the Lumiel server for quite some time now..And its been getting worse over the years...old friends gone, pvp worse, old GM's gone. Should I come to Siel? :sad:

 

Siel:
Less gms to be online.
No friends (since you'd be starting alone).
More zerg due to more people.
Can't trade your stuff without a ton of adds, because everyone in siel has everything and they're just trying to outjew eachother.
You'd have to learn the game all over to not be useless since there's no such thing as stigmas or balance.

What do you think?

 

Dont you dare transfer, youll regret the PvP here

 

To me, PVP on a full stigma server can be exciting if you know how to use your class and know what you are facing. The only thing that ruins the fun is how zerg based this game became. But I do find myself having alot of fun Dueling people in sanctum. Nothing is better than a clean 1 vs 1

But Stigma servers would be my favorite just because everything is more balanced. And certain classes arent as OP as they should. Such as Templar and Spiritmasters.

 

You should create a new toon over there, level it up and check out if you like it. it won't take too much and you won't waste credits in case you don't enjoy siel.

 

Sorry for the wall of text,

People are always complaining about zerg but they never do 1v1 arena. I'll come back to this later.

As for duels, I suggested adding a healerbot in sanctum (if you can add a training dummy in warehouse, you can add a healing npc). Counterarguments (e.g., "oh it's a GM command") make no sense as I can do the exact same thing with a dual-boxed songweaver. There is no possibility for abuse and it's much better than resting + odella powder, yes?

There are people nitpicking arena matches and dodging queues that they think isn't winnable. Sometimes I burn through all my tickets without ever seeing the opponent enter because that gunner standing in front of the Arena of Discipline got raped too hard 5 minutes ago; now all he wants to do is wait until a +0 APP chanter with no manastones enter because he absolutely needs a win to stroke his ego. I don't see a way to stop this, so it's up to the players (cringe) to man up and just take it.

I don't want to see this server die (though I'm probably in denial). Even though server populations will never come back to the packed levels it was 3 years ago, it's just depressing to see an afk jeraaa be the only guy in sanctum at 10 pm.

tl;dr everyone seems to be hell bent on killing this server as painfully as possible.

/rant

 

Yes. Indeed you should.... you would be playing full stigma and have alot more ppl to play with and pvp against


As for Zergs... You can always find areas for decent solo or duo pvp without having to run into zergz.

 

I smell a Siel vs Lumiel argument comin....

 

You can always make a new circle of friends wherever you are if thats your primary case on moving to Siel. And as many players stated, Siel is very ZERGY specially around Danaria, Katalam, Beluslan and Heiron. Siel is based on Full-Stigma system and you know what that means.

Legions
As for legions, As you all know, the most-talk-about Legions are on Siel and Sometimes their on fire for obvious reasons lol.

Race
Elyos are overpopulated compared to Asmodians. In fact Sanctum is full of life compared to most places on Asmo side. I doubt you would join a race which is almost empty in a way. But my team and I mostly stand against Elyos due to our teamplay. But when we get bored, we switch out to Elyos side and PvP aswell. But that's just my case.

GMs
Most GMs are active on Lumiel - Like Deathangel for example . I havent been on Lumiel so I have no Idea what's in there.


Gears
Getting Gears are easy since you can get tons of Kahrun Symbols and exchange them for Kahrun Set/Weapons and use them for PVE. Sauro Supply Base, Tiamat Stronghold for now are the best way to farm any Gears depends on your interest. I bet with VIP account, you could always trade these PVE stuff for PVP items. Its a slow process, but in the end you will get your set in a couple of months or so. And bear in mind, if you Aim to get a Governor Set, I recommend Getting Elite Archon Commander - Shedim Herrald Set and weapons first. Most Governor Sets are only those players who can Donate, Members of the Staff or any other players who already saved enough credit to buy these Sets via voting.

 

Having to re learn your class completely depends on what class you play many classes have very very similar gameplay with only minor changes, while others have much more change...Think of it this way most people on siel indeed just spam skills , however those who have played both servers most of the time use Lumiel fighting styles, The whole full stigma system comes in to play when your fighting in groups or fighting groups it allows you to kill more people faster and for me at least gernerally more fun of a gameplay....not to mention having to search for people on lumiel some days is such a drag you never have to search for pvp on siel..and Sanctum and Altgard are almost always full of people to talk to or duel...the trade brokers are always stuffed full of consumables and gear and random goodies...Very easy to make friends here so no worries about that.

 

ok now u already get few response...some are gud n some are not....its up to u now to decide it...nobody will kill u if wanted transfer to siel or not..i promise to u ^^

 

You are in Lumiel. By default you know whatever class you are playing correctly. So in Siel full stigma is just accessory for you, IMO.
People and friends? Up to you if you are friendly enough or not. Still being carefull is always good, lots of pinoys that only beg for gear and try to show friendship to rip you off later, happens.
Yes, its zergy, most are noobs that flock in hordes over a single player until nothing but bones remain, eating only a small and insignificant piece of the kill price and thinking that they did good. That been said, there are times when the pvp is good, which is mostly before some crying kid yells for help in LFG.
Gear? what is trendy is on everyone´s trades and on broker, of course seeking higher tier pvp gear is a long road without any help, there are fair traders as there is good people, but mostly idiots that are in there for the "profit", whatever that means in here.

As someone wrote, make a char in Siel and see for yourself, what is to lose but time?

 

Your dignity.

Can you explain the logic behind that? Sure you got more skills to kill stuff with but so does the enemy....it won't even make the fight faster since both of you would have extra defence stigmas on any class.

 

Lol thats the thing about these debates you always assume that
1.) Everyone is a pro at their class
2.) They are all fully geared
3.) Everyone is the same skill level
4.) probably other random shit.
The logic is...now bear with me... If people from lumiel are as skilled as you claim them to be well then it should make perfect sence...if you take a lumiel and put him in siel with more skills he will kill all these siel scrubs faster than they are gona kill him eh?

 

Yes it has to do with player skill but the way you said it made it seem like it's "siel exclusive" to kill more people with a no-stigma system. I see no point in putting it there in the first place. Cause when someone's talking about 1 of the 4+ aspects you mentioned above you assume that everything else is equalized, otherwise it's just meaningless.

 

Please refrain any negative thoughts on this thread that can lead to flame war. This is not a debate which server is better because of "this" "that" and "why". Just make this thread clean and state the current situation on which server you are on and let her decide if she wants to move or to stay.

 

Anyways I'm not saying that in lumiel the same thing cant happen, but in siel its easier to pvp for longer amounts of time and kill more in open world pvp when its just u vs multiples or small group with a healer w/e. Because like it or not you are going to do more overall damage on siel to whatever stands against you...Fewer waiting for cds...you do your lumiel rotation it might kill 2 -3 ...siel we got all the other shit we can take it from 2 -3 and keep going to 6 , 7 and 8 before we reach cooldowns. Don't know how else to word it for you to understand the point lol.

 

Dafuq dude, ever heard of weaving? i do 1 kill every 5 seconds if we wipe zergs and i never run out of cooldowns, never! well, if you got low ping and spam the shit around of course you got those problems

 

This was what i was asking about, lets say for example you're a temp fighting another temp in siel. You got all those extra attack stigmas but he has a ton of support/defence stigmas that nobody in their right mind would even consider in lumiel. It equalizes the higher damage with higher defence...if anything fights on siel should be longer because :

This. People on siel are used to having so many skills that it's pretty much impossible to be on cooldown, in Lumiel we know that if you use everything without weaving you'd be autoattacking for 5-7sec after wasting everything in the first 5sec of the fight. With the exception of some clerics and a few chanters everybody goes for damage stigmas here, a glad vs glad duel would end in 10-15sec cause we don't use stuff like Dauntless spirit/Howl/Spin block/Magical Defense and etc..

 

Aaaand this turned, again, into a competition of low ping people who think that there is no one better than them and they have all the answer to pvp like "pros", whatever that can mean; when maybe there is people that only wants to have fun and seek a fresh experience in the other server.