Is Rangers pretty much useless?

Theres no point of playing if u dont allow yourself to have fun.

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im playing ranger since 2.0 until now.

 

New class on Siel might be OP due to No Stigma system, but, on Lumiel everything is balance, so if you want a balance PvP, go to Lumiel and you will be PRO on notime.

 

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No, Just no l2play

 

Did the introduction of Gunslingers make Rangers redundant? Yes
Are Rangers still a viable option? Yes, in certain conditions.

Useless? Not exactly. Ranger's ultimate downfall is their lack of defensive skills. The introduction of Gunslingers, that class provided numerous skills that functions as well (if not better) than a Ranger.

Useful? Not as useful as some other classes either. Previously was backed up by their high burst damage and still only ranged physical class. However they cannot provide Group support in any form and if gets focused, will get brought down.

 

Rangers may be very squishy but their speed (both running and attacking) is insane. Both gunners and rangers are similar in style and gameplay, but I don't think gunner makes ranger redundant at all.

In fact, while many may not share this opinion I think a well played ranger can easily outplay a gunner.

Gunners are an easy class to play because they have an overall lack of skills (if you switch between aethercannon and pistol its better, but they depend on that switch for maximum viability) but that doesn't necessarily make them an amazing class with lots of utility, which I believe rangers are.
Gunners are well known for people using damage godstones, relatively heavy damage and ability to reset cooldowns, but all in all rangers make up for it IMO with more disable skills (stun and stuff) and the ability to plow your face in with the fastest ranged skills including one that feels like an aethercannon hit but can be cast much much much faster.

In any case both have their difference in gameplay and I do not think they make each other redundant at all. Rangers make up for squishy with a better arsenal of skills and an attack speed that let's them unload on you before you get to them.

 

Ranger is good if you play as it is supposed to be played, a lot of MA, sleep, slow, traps, immob.

Most rangers here are full att/crit, that's why people think that rangers are useless. Imo that class isnt meant to and cant deal huge amounts of dmg, it takes time to kill things with ranger and that's why MA is required.

You dont just fire your arrows hoping to kill someone, just because you got the best gear and full attk. No that will not work unless you are in mau form 24/7 running in zergs. You need magical accuracy, a lot of crit strike and a lot of patience. Trap your enemies, if they are 2 vs 1 you ll need your sleep trap and sleep arrow. You need to cover your silence by poisoning and blinding your enemies (you have an insta-trap skill). Casters are easier to deal with now, you can literally destroy a bard if you sleep it and debuff it and cover it with silence, thanks to the new skill that increases casting time by 100% as well as attk speed.

Ranger is nowhere near as powerful as gunners generally. But if played correctly, trust me it can take a gunner down in 1vs1 situation.

Im not that good at ranger, but i can still kill people 2vs1 (im full ma/crit).

 

yeppp ranger is not a uselless unfortunatly they can kill any class

 

false nothing can kill a full skilling sm ;3

 

Agreed. Gunners are frequently called OP, better than rangers etc. but when you look at how many CC options rangers have and consider the whole picture rather than just "gunner hits hard" its easy to see how they can outplay one, and tons of other classes too.

I would argue that going full attack/crit is viable and people should follow their own builds more often instead of doing the same thing EVERYONE else does (though in tjis case attack/crit is probably the mainstream build), however people need to realize that if you do this you make your ranger into a glass cannon. You can burst really fast, but don't expect to live long.

 

Be opportunistic as u can be.i do agree with mer on ranger is nowhere as powerful as gunner but with precision timing,soft target and 1234567890 at ur fingertip.huehuehuehueuue

Play it smart

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Nice build bro. my build of my ranger is crit/attack and crit/MA. ranger need a physical attack.

 

Gunner doesn't replace Rangers, that's for sure. It's just in terms of Open PvP, where you're constantly required to chase after opponents, while damaging them, they share very similar aspects. Rangers have the upper hand of running speed to chase (and slow) down opponents. Gunners on the other hand get access to more damage skills that can be used on the move and stunlocking enemies. Both classes can get capped attack speed easily (Gunslingers even has no universal delay for their skills).

In a fairer scenario of 1vs1 or 2vs1, a Ranger will have the upper hand compared to a Gunslinger. They can Hide before initiating, Sleep and plant traps whilst a Gunslinger is usually forced to deal with 2 at once. Personally I really hate Gunslingers (and Spiritmasters) and much prefer to see more Rangers. We used to call Rangers the easy mode class, now the crown goes to Gunslingers. I've always said this to my legionmates: "There is no "good" Gunslingers, only those who know how to play and those who don't" but least you can be called a good Ranger.

 

And arbiter bow can give you more than enough attack.

Attack manastones increase autoattack damage by a lot, but their effect on skills is minimal. People would be better off with MA.

It's like going attack/crit on a glad, err crappest build ever. All the decent glads go for ma/accuracy and crit/accuracy correct me if im wrong.

Attack is great, only if you are a sin (with decent ping that can weave in-between skills). Period.

 

maybe you're right. but i build my own..
and this build make my ranger OP..

 

*blush* thanks Maam Akikaze, Im really proud of myself now, huehue, Im a good ranger, yey

 

Range of ranger skills is also superior...and have you ever read the ranger attk buffs that read " increases attack damage of bow" ? just saying that means that attack stones on rangers become even less useful if put on the armor (not completely just much less useful)

 

your build is crit/ma?.. can you make it crit/accuracy. MA is for the mage or sm.

 

/hasspoken.

 

I dont use ma on my sm or sorc does that make me a bad mage ;3.