Two things i dont get

Ok, 1[SUP]st[/SUP]of all I have to say that this is probably THE BEST UPDATE IN HISTORY OF GAMEZ with all those working instances, events and everything. But there are a couple of things that don’t seem right imo.

1[SUP]st[/SUP] of them is the fact that now we are able to buy Fearless Skirmishers, Discordant items in game using blood marks. Apparently,( correct me if im wrong) they have better stats that Shedim Harold stuff( although it can be augmented now), even the pvp stats on weapon and set parts are better. The only disadvantage of them is that they have 5 manaslots instead of 6 but its not such a big deal.It is rly easy to get, u can get a whole set + weapon + acc set for 1-2 days depending on how much u play. Even abg is much harder to get. I don’t see why they can be bought in game while HAC ( shedim ) items are sold on Shop for 2,5k per piece and as far as I know we cannot buy them in game ( maybe im not right but I ve never seen any npc who sells them). U might say that’s how it is on retail, but I highly doubt that there is any player on retail who has 8 chars that can farm blood marks on.

The second thing that seems bothering to me is one of those events for credits with 5 participants that costs 500 tolls and the reward is 2k+ tolls. For me this is like a very tempting invitation to all people who use hacks. And the result will be 4 legit players losing 500 tolls while the hacker gets the fat reward. U might say that the other contestants can always make a video of him and report him. Well, not always. For instance I cannot use fraps cuz my computer isn’t good enough and the game freezes and if I m gonna use it, I better not participate on the event at all. So what’s the chance the rest 3 of us to recognize he’s hacking, to fraps him and report him– pretty much zero. I will tell you why.

Like 3 weeks ago I saw some gunner who was acting really strange – going up and down , moving in a huge distance for a second. Luckily there was a GM on, I told him about that guy and the GM told me it was a visual bug. A couple of minutes later I went to Danaria near SSB ( the most populated place in 4.0 ) and I saw him again. He was doing the same weird stuff. Although there was a change to be a visual bug, he still seemed very suspicious to me , so I started asking random players around me ( there were like 30 or more at that moment ) if they see anything wrong about him. The ones who responded to me , told me that he seems fine. He was running around and hacking for like 1h and more and like nobody noticed him. Then I saw some1 reported him on forum and he got banned(R.I.P). Now imagine if some player s hacking NOT that obviously, u have a few mins on this event and there are only 4 players around who u fight with. For me its like this:The best hacker gets a huge reward for that.
I don’t claim Im right I m just sharing my thoughts I would love to see what u guys think.
Whew that’s some wall of text…

 

I've never seen an event that gives 2k credits but ok...For your information HAC isnt an in game item it only exists in the database...and 6-7 extra manastone slots is going to make a larger difference than pvp % any day.
Complaining about hackers will do you no good its been stated once its been stated 100 times...record them if you want to get them banned...some AMs are not well experienced when deciding whether or not a person is hacking...But some of them are and if you post a video they will all get a chance to take a look thus increasing your chances.
and like i said could be wrong but i doubt theres a credit reward of 2000.

 

1st - Why u aren't just happy for it ? we can play any character now with avarage gear.

2nd - I doubt there are too many hackers out there... Although I met a gunner yesterday, that killed me & my friend on 2 hits... And no it wasnt godstone proc, as it happened 3 times in a row, to both of us... maybe just OP gunner... but he was wearing ARENA gear...

 

There is a new event (battleground) which is a lot like a lottery in that you pay 500 (or other amounts if the event has it set to a lower entry) to enter and the winner gets the lottery of the combined payments, which is around 2500.

 

is 90 each member group who win! anyway i dont see it a nice event since groups are not random. on that way the good geared and old pvp teams will farm tolls like a bo$$. and btw...server is down? i can t connect!

 

Hello there.

HAC/Shedim Herald items vendors do not exist in game. The vendors were never implemented and the items are actually not obtainable on retail.
Also, Shedim Herald Items are far superior to any Bloodmark item.
Why? Because they can be enchanted up to +15 (Fearless/Fierce Skirmisher can be enchanted ONLY to +10), they have 6 Manastone slots and you get bonus stats by augmenting the sets.

The battleground you are talking about spawns once every 2-3 days and requires 500 credits to be joined but rewards with 2500 credits in case of victory. You don't like it? you don't join it. There are over 50 free Battlegrounds which do not require credits to be joined, rotating through the day. Nobody forces you to enter the credit-ones (and btw, some normal battlegrounds like Battle of the Gods, Rescue the Prisoners, Special 3v3 reward you with credits even with out a prior payment), considering the huge amount of available events/bgs every time.

If you think someone is hacking, type .gmlist to report him to an online GM, or record a video and report the player on forums. Just because there are hackers around it doesn't mean we are going to shut down our battlegrounds.

 

whut s wrong with server? i can t conect...also gamezaion.com not working too...

 

I think 5 manastone slots make a huge difference, that's 16x5 extra MR (80) or 5x accuracy stones that's hell of a lot of accuracy to lose.

Other than that i'm not too sure about the updates, im not really playing gamez right now

 

Thanks for the lots of replies. About the things HAM Deathangel said :

’’Also, Shedim Herald Items are far superior to any Bloodmark item.
Why? Because they can be enchanted up to +15 (Fearless/Fierce Skirmisher can be enchanted ONLY to +10), they have 6 Manastone slots and you get bonus stats by augmenting the sets.’’

I didn’t know that Fearless Skirmishers can be enchanted only to +10, but I tried to compare the stats of my hac set which is + 15 and Fearless Skirmishers and I think the winner was F.S. but ok, I might be wrong. About the manastones …well I rly thought it wasn’t a biggy, but since u all say that it makes a big difference, I agree with u :smile:

“The battleground you are talking about spawns once every 2-3 days and requires 500 credits to be joined but rewards with 2500 credits in case of victory. You don't like it?”

On the contrary, I love it. But I don’t have extra 500 credits to donate for some hacker’s big reward. And as u see, I’m not talking about any other battleground (even the ones who require a few credits).

’’If you think someone is hacking, type .gmlist to report him to an online GM, or record a video and report the player on forums.’’

I don’t think I ll have enough time while being on event and fighting with 4 more players to type .gmlist and report the one that looks suspicious. I have only 1 min afaik to prepare for the battle and I cannot foresee who of them will hack. Like I explained above I cannot record cuz my computer isn’t good and the game freezes.

Anyway, thank u for the interest and the answers u gave me.

 

If a hacker is brave enough/stupid enough to hack in an event like that where they know they can be easily spotted, then well..
1) they're probably going to get multiple reports, some people besides you might be recording
2) If no one is recording at all, the report still helps, because if that person is again brave enough/stupid enough to do it, they're probably going to do it again right afterwards and a GM on duty will happily follow someone, especially if that person has multiple accusations.


edit: I should add, I don't know if people still use it as much, but a few years ago when combat related hacks were quite frequent and popular (ie: someone hitting with 4 auto-attacks in a second), the chat log could be used to show that the timing between attacks was immensely irregular. Animation related stuff might be a bit more iffy, but you can always check.
edit2: Disregard, that log apparently only exists on modded clients now, thus people not using it anymore.

 

There's one more thing that nobody realised: Even if he'll get banned, you 90% probably won't get any credits, but still lost those credits required to join.

 

something else people think that just because you are super stupid fast you are hacking not the case a lot of the time...just like with people crying over super op hack damage...which also cant happen cus that is determined server side...more than likely your fighting someone whose played that class for 3 or 4 years and has low ping lol.

 

Btw, I forgot to mention maybe the most important thing – U cannot see ur opponents’ names, u see only the name of the player who killed u, I think that’s how it is on all the battlegrounds/events or at least the ones I ‘ve tried so far. Even if I manage to fraps some1 who I think is hacking (if I fight more than 1 player), the only thing that combat log shows will be Fighter had inflicted on you xxx damage or Fighter inflicted on Fighter xxx damage . How can anyone determine who is the fighter among all of Fighters that hacks?

 

on the end it still says "you were killed by [real char name] attak" or "[that hackers name] was killed by your attak "

 

Indeed. That's what I said. Its easy in 1vs1 but I’m talking about fighting with more than 1 player like the Jackpot event with 5 participants. The hacking Fighter might not be the Fighter that killed u and u may not kill him.