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FFA skills abuse?

Discussion in 'Problems' started by Purell, Mar 12, 2014.

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  1. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    Personally i think it depends on the map ...in a map like muada's trencher you have more of a problem with sins hiding waiting for just you ...in a map like padma its larger and you dont get the problem half as often.
     
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    I sincerely have to ask why are you still playing this game, you clearly do not enjoy it unless everyone moves at your tune.
    Which is contradictory to the game nature.. flawed and all.
     
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    Ive seen you tank like 10 ppl.C'mon Suho,you talk about SM,and what about Templars facerollin the events.You dont have full heals and stuff?
    You,Ur,HIangel,Rejan and so many more can pretty much tank 5-6 ppl in FFA and kill few of them if not all.
     
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    1st of all Siel (sigh),2nd Siel temps QQ about other classes?Really?Full dmg + full attk + ALL defensive buffs + heals + 200k hp + crazy attk speed (WoC 2) if you QQ what should rangers say that fight against temps then?Anyway my suggestion is for the survival event and here it goes:As many others said remove shadow walk from those bgs but most importantly change the rule from "The last standing player wins" to "The last standing player OR the player with the most kills win" that seems to be fair instead of ppl hiding or running or just waiting cause no1 attacks them (Temps) will then have to work for their win,it's already been that way on another p.server and every1 likes it.
     
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    Please don't tell me you're a sin and you think ANYTHING changes skill COOLDOWN. That's just sad.

    Play smart, do some aoe's ? Did you forget the part where sins can move in hide? If he stands still while a gladiator runs up to him then he's too stupid to be anything resembling a threat. And as a glad if you even think of attacking someone without ud (especially with more than 5 people in the same tight map) you're as good as dead.
     
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  6. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    Not every class can dps high enough to kill people and that would be pretty unfair to newbies..you got to realize that this server has woc 2 and godstones so a class like cleric cannot go magic boost here without getting wrecked by silence.
     
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    As if dps is a problem for clerics in siel, cmon ves don't be like that. All you gotta do is survive till the 3 other people die, buff up the dps reactor and shoot hell on the poor soul who barely made it till then.

    Once it's down to a 1v1 the cleric can't lose. About the kill thing...seems like a decent idea but the bg is called SURVIVAL, not KILL COUNT.



    Speaking of which, Ari go make a kill count bg, 12 people go in, 5min duration, 5-10sec till res, person with highest kill count wins (no shit huh?)
     
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  8. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    wat ? im just saying if they make it to where most kills wins
     
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    Well that's why you enter alone.If i wanted to play support classes id go 2v2 etc with a friend.A class like cleric can rape many others even with full support stigma build and mostly defensive manastone build just ask Alexxu :).And as for the woc2 and 10% silence/blind gs believe me i have realised that since 2010 (and for woc2 since they came out at 2.5 if i'm right).The way things are now with survival are a lot worse that what it would be the way i'm suggesting just think about it ppl will actually have to pvp to earn something not to wait in hide or etc and go at the last player fully buffed when rs is on cd and etc you just said the same earlier :)
     
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    Probably...they could still get 1-2kills, maybe 3 if you have a spare dps set. Don't forget , dps build or not, it's a SUPPORT class.
     
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    This also make it reward credits too and then i bet sins and temps (and the occasional sm) will be the only classes joining survival and they will QQ about the skills of eachother.LOL
     
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    Just stigma siel then LOL then you all be worst shape vs an sm LOL meaning they will still have sub and only 1 full heal, 1 partial heal and one over time heal. instead of 2 full heal, 1 partial heal and one over time heal... ohh wait most of you rely on all skills right? meaning you will lose half of everything. Omg back to drawing board. Why dont we pick the people who are never happy. list all their nagging, take an average and make the change because is that easy. Base on your classes you will complain about one thing that bothers you... it is an endless cycle... how about just be a champ and deal with it best you can? isnt that part of the game growing and evolving and become better players? also sm only gets 2 full heal other heal cost hp on sm which I guess you can do while you in sub. but it way to risky to lower you hp for that much especially on ffa. as for teleporting thats flat out abuse right there that should be fix... as for sin hide well... maybe if you can put limit on their hide like in tournaments and etc will be fair... it is funny though when sins over buff which why I never take of battle effects sound because you can hear them lol then react accordingly. also pet here doest not have pvp def like it does in retail, meaning they are a lot squishier =)
     
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    What more the ddl dagger no more have extend and you want even more nerf to sins -_- . What about templers pff...
     
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    Unfortunately, the extendable for dual wielding got fixed with the 4.5 update. You'll need 2 DDL dagger/sword equipped on Assassins to have full extending function (that's how it works on retail). Understandably, this brings a pretty major drawback on any players wanting to use DDL+PvP weapon now.
     
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    not complain much because someone someday if you teach me skills is to use them not to let them escape
    the problem we all have with the subticion is easy to solve; make their processes more godstones of silence with silence no heal the pet directly or no skills for sm

    ethan fucking machines if they can remove any game including Shield Templar Zikel
     
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    Sin hide is fair game. Scouts are never intended to be on the front lines. Because of the nature of Survival FFA, quite often are sins pitted against a high HP templar at the end of a survival.

    As far as SM goes in FFA, since everyone and their mother gangs up on them its fair game.
    As far as SM goes in group PvP, there are 2 man combos that make spirit sub (or any 1 class) useless.
    As far as SM in 1v1 goes, thats where their weakness in AOEs are compensated with owning 1v1's vs certain classes. But theres 1v1 combo's from retail that obliterate spirit subs and its not from warriors. Magic classes are meant to balance out plate classes. The classic MMO triad.
     
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    Sin hide is totally fair. 1v1 bg with no time limit for credits, sin goes hide 2 for a good minute then goes into shadow walk for around 5 minutes. pops out, use your buffs, sin uses wind walk and eventually back into shadow walk for another 5 minutes. Goes back to hide2 when shadow walk expires for another minute. by then you'll have your buffs off cd, sin pops out, use your buffs, sin uses wind walk and go back into shadow walk for another 5 minutes. Repeat 2x until 8k dp is gone. Sin sits and keeps alternating hide2 and shadow walk for THIRTY MINUTES to wait for jelly cd and repeat. eventually pisses you off and port out = sin wins.

    totally fair. nothing wrong with that. :))))
     
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    Using the class's strength to its best. I fail to see the problem. In the Korean legion vs legion tournament held recently over KAion 4.5, sins fighting SMs used wind walk whenever things turned sour.

    Ever heard of the phrase "To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill"?
     
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    Yeah if hiding forever is your source of fun on a hardcore PvP game then I don't know what to say xD
     
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    yeah those hide is so fucking annoying -.-
     
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