Am spiritmaster and i need serious help.

I have been playing spiritmaster now for quit 2 month and i just want to say i need serious help from any pros sm.
lately in 1 vs 1 portals i have been facing 3 unbeatable factions but before i say which i got the following ACD gear full mana mc/mb and the other half magical boost magical acc and arbiter book tomed but no god stone and my acc are terqouse commander not full set just rings and ear rings.
i know might people say from first 2 lines go search for SM guides well i did but seems combo don't work i tryed alot.
Assasins : my worst enemy once i start a 1 vs 1 he hides then before any thing he jump right near me stun then paralyze god stone with silence and am just dead once the first hit wins turn over i go again i got with magic implosion debuff , the slow and knock back chains then silence bind then go with bad effects i dont get enuf chance to pull all bad effects on him inched: his just stun master longer i debuff him he still stuns me and silence me and drop tons of damge on me spirit sub is useless he keeps going on hide till it's over so i lost hope vs assasins.:bandit:



Sorcers : all say sdfu it's easiest fight well not to me i usually win but still i get alot of pain and some times in zerk i die.
i go with same combo i saw on forum debuff with chain then knock back silence then bad effects then dps don't work cause here is what happens once i start pvp or duel or 1 vs 1 i just once i debuff he use that teleportation skill then he sleep then his combo of sleep then out of sudden my hp is down to 10% i just resheild then try to do any thing but i still fail and i try as much as i said not to use FEAR .



Templars : the god dam animals i usually was pwnin templars but i think they were the nub ones all of sudden i went againts strong templars unbeatable i pulled all bad effects on him with fear and stone scour got his 40% of hp down and when he was just about like 5k left he just all sheilds back up and hp is full and kept happening for like 9 times was like unending sheilds and hp recovers till my mp went over and i died i use same combo i even used the troll sleep combo and it still failed to kill him.


idk what to do i would use some help for real am not so nub i got total 400 kills in my 2 month and to be honest i spent my first month collecting gears. so help please i would be pleased if some one tells me a combo or tricks or what ever i can do vs those factions which spirit to summon cause i usually go for an earth for spirit sub or for wind for stuns so combos or trick or w/e any one can tell to help me is ok i will be thankfull xD:rightful:

 

Here the guide how to Troll with a SM

http://forum.gameznetwork.com/f64/alphas-depth-spiritmaster-guide-148883/

 

Come on

Also Ethan told me he was going to update that guide with new combos, so expect it to be updated soon xd

 

Ik that guide it what made me able to kill but still -.- the combos are too old usually don't even work vs the new skills
i suggest to talk to the creator of this guide to please advice him to update combos and don't make them so repetitive like almost all start with debuff if i start with debuff vs sorcer i get sleeped instantly if his good sorcer am dead with that start so please let him know about that xD

 

like mr guillermo is saying.

 

The combos are from 3.5 but they are hardly "old" and the only thing ive changed is just to maximize Dps in the shortest time possible, the beginning of my combos are still the same. And yes they do work ...I cant hold your hand and show you every little thing that you have to do. Take some initiative and think for yourself ...After all I have 20 MS ping and i can only tell you what works for me and not all these high 300ms ping sms out there...There are only maybe 1 or 2 skills since 4.0 that change anything about pvp while your on sm and thats it...Yes I am updating the guide...but if you are having problems with sm now what i write down will most likely not help you at all.

 

Magic Implosion - Aegis Breaker - Chain of earth - Stun/ Knockback Assasins
don't work cause once i debuff he stun lock with paralyze god stone with that spin attack and like 4 mmore hits with that am dead also he can lay bad effects as i do.

*Combo no longer relevant because pull bug has been fixed will insert the new one later. templars not even a combo.

Sorcerer

Hands down easiest fight ever for a Spiritmaster.
Here are the rules for fighting sorcerer

1.) Brand them because they love to Blind leap all over the damn place.
2.) Do Not Remove Shock Absolute Zero unless they are withing 10 meters for Flames of Anguish.
3.) Contract of resistance of course gives your time to get your combo off.

This will generally kill any cloth class

Magic Implosion - Aegis Breaker - Chain of earth - Stun/ Knockback - Sigil of silence - Erosion - Root -Shackle of Vulnerability
works with dumb sorc pro will teleport once i debuff him make me lost target for a sec he get a chance to instant sleep me which is a start combo to give a death.

the new faction no fear can be used vs it kinda tuff like that walleye dude it's so op vs sm xD
so please ik my skill or days of skill ain't match for any one here but am saying what i been throught i ask pleasently for new combos

 

Well, son, to be honest.. you can't expect to pick up a class and never lose a fight. Keep practising and adapt, the people you faced obviously knew how to take over control against you.

 

don't hold my hands
but realease new combos i love to always have alot of options
i got 300 kill for my weak gear and 3.5 combos and i made my own combos but still those new skills and those 3 factions are pain in my ass iam asking just to take a minute hour of ur time to update combos based on ur years of skills i will simply take them practice and create my own from them .
i don't know any of other factions skills cause as i said am 2 month old in whole aion it self. so please don't think am insulting u or forcing u am just asking for ur help xD

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am trying but it's so hard with acd gear vs full donations and years of pros am mentally getting ass kicked xD from those factions xD those 3 only i can solo 8 glads with spirit sub and win but some how i cant vs 3 templars xD

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i just wanna appologize for improper way to ask for advice and help it's just new to me xD the idea of losing 1 vs 1 alot or getting zerked by 3 assains or 3 templars xD

 

Please learn to quote first of all lol..that was so confusing to read.

Assassins Its all about how fast you are...you need to be able to hit the skills you need instantly every little bit of delay vs this class decreases your chance for success by tenfold. I personally don't have problems with this class unless like you said i get hit by a paralyze godstone or silence godstone locked Etc...but then that has nothing to do with the persons skill or the class itself its just a godstone..and so i know which assassins who have a high proc chance with those godstones and i usually will use bodyguard (the 20 second spiritstub) against those individuals just because if you dont the chances of you loosing because of that godstone are relatively high.
It is possible to lock assasins it requires a lot of watching what skills they are loosing and really just being really really fast...Silence is your best friend here ..an assassin who cant use his dodge skills is a sitting duck ...whether or not he is able to attack is really irrelevant in the long run as you should be able to kill him off with just your movable range skills while kiting him while hes got 3.0 movement speed.

Templars? Still probably one of the easiest class to beat even when they are using full skills...the trick is to just not get in their range...keep them slowed and dot them to death...only stop to cast when they are binded or when u know they wont reach you. As for fighting multiple templars yes its going to be almost impossible espeically when they are full skilling just because you as 1 person has to pump out about 200k dmg to kill all three of them (if they are geared) ...and well seeing as your going to be doing about 1k dmg per second (uninterrupted) and really your only defence in the situation is going to be Spirit sub...The chances of you winning that fight are slim to none.

Sorcs ...still a very easy class...use wind spirit against them for the extra stun...a few tips

1st thing to do vs a sorc. Count their buffs in front of stone skin...2 buffs in front or less very very easy fight...just use magic implosion without using aegis breaker and go straight to stun..3 use magic implosion, aegis breaker then go for stun ...you may need contract of resistance but probably not...4+ buffs in front you are going to need contract of resistance to get silence lock first...most likely

2nd thing their new nearly instant sleep...You have 3 things that can counter it and that is The wind spirit stun, Contract of resistance, and Cloaking word
For the windspirit stun, lure them towards you while keeping your pet behind you as your moving away ...once they get close to your pet use spirit disturbance this stun goes through stone skin and will allow you got get your combo off.
Contract well that's just self explanatory it gives you 1 resist.
And cloaking word can be used a few different ways..my personal favorite is to use Ignite aether then use cloaking word before the dmg lands and come back out with Magic implosion + stun you can also cast it right when they get to 26 / 27 meters to screw up their targeting so that it gives u a slight time advantage for getting stun and silence off.

Magic Implosion - Aegis Breaker - Chain of earth - Stun/ Knockback - Sigil of silence - Erosion - Root -Shackle of Vulnerability - Infernal Blight- Vacuum choke - Spirit disturbance - Infernal Pain - Soul Torrent

This takes some careful timing with spirit disturbance but you can time it to land immediately as their remove shock buff runs out. The only way they will survive this combo is if they use all pots and their reverse mp /hp skill...which still makes them very easy to kill.

If you do happened to get slept first thing u should do is hover your mouse over your stone skin and get ready to remove it but dont do it every time watch to see if they are going to go for silence Lock first if they go for just dps and throw silence in there for fun dont bother you will pot silence and then silence them yourself...if they start casting flame fushion or anything of the sort immediately remove stone skin as the dmg will wake you up and you can avoid getting silence locked.

With Aethertechs first off you need to know what their skills do so read up..the only things you really need to know about them is that they can remove your spirit sub, they are stopped by Body root not sigil of silence , they can root you and silence you and like a two second para...Dont try to fear them you will waste the skill, Sleeping them is an option if you have to as they have like no sleep resistance...other than that treat them like a glad or any other non ranged class... Kite dot up and only stop to cast when binded.

 

too lazy to read all this.....I advise you to watch videos on youtube many sm pro and u try to learn their combos

 

I've only seen like 2 sm videos that were even decently good on youtube and none of them could be applied to siel XD.

 

Now thats very nice of you

 

Thank's. Excuse the too many words but just please read .
but here is the thing am i know it would be bit confusing any ways the thing is about assassins in 4.5 i readed every thing but still that doesn't give me what i asked for i liked the tips very smart but still i can die vs sorcerer what you said lol that actually helped and vs the athertic i now know why my spirit sub goes away XD now my only actual problem vs Templar and assassins.
Here is what happens once i go againts assassin.
Hide > Teleportation or w/e near me = stun then he puts like a silence and 3 -4 bad effects. then Here is what i foolishly do i pop the 2 bad effects potion and the earth wall of protection in like 1 sec now am clean i start jumping around debuffing with magic implosion then quickly a knock back with slow then paralyze then bind then immoblize then infenal blight Here comes that moment where i get pissed off idk what i did wrong i actually think i done good xD any ways he still even that buff with 2% stun is gone he teleports AGAin near me with another stun then some sort of a buff removes all of that crap break my stone skin with 2 spins in air then am dead. didn't even land a damge even when i respawn with spirit sub he just somehow stays in hide for almost that minute of spirit sub. that's how i always and always lose vs asssasins but in zerk pvp once i target on some one like asssassins i usually get 50% health down with just a debuff then bad effects then his just dead with dp other than that in 1 vs 1 which i usually go for to learn SM i just die i lost like 80k abyss point with 1 vs 1 xD returned star officer 2.


Templars : full mr templar sincerely make me mad too here is what happens and here is what i do.
starts simply i take magic implosion on him as debuff ofc then slow knock back then silence and bind then immoblize i put all contract of resi magic implos and infernal blight. then send wind spirit to stun then erosion infernal pain and wrath of earth then i do another knock back all of this his just standing right there taking damge to almost his death all of sudden when i start DPS he went to 2 handed swords he pulled me broke my stone skin i poped the 3k damge buff he broke it i tailed away and re-debuffed he almost died but some how he just buffed or smth his hp is like 100% again and couple buffs for taking damge instead of him i just keep debuffing and debuffing and putting damage and he just chase me with hits till i run totally out of MP just totally no potions or anything then he suddenly start throwing the hell out of damge like 3k per hit and i just keep jumping around till i die.
so as you can see my problem is beside my stupidness is i don't have a Basics neither any thing all i do or all my kills were basicly and thankfully from your 3.5 combos xD it's abit shame but it's ok i just ask you again pleasely not just tips i need to know how to win a 1 vs 1 vs a full donation Templar and a full donation assassin if you don't have time to do the teacher explanation it's ok thank's for every thing but if you had time to still replay and say what i really need i would be very glad xD BTW on youtube also a girl helped called Shire plays on official her combos actually helps like yours but not still vs Templar and assassins and not even for soloing.

 

You need to study other classes skills first of all.

With templar they have 2 pulls 1 is 2 min cd and the other has a 30 second cd. Make sure that you have some form of shield up when their pulls are on cd...having fine anti shock scrolls is quite useful. Also make sure that you have enough magical accuracy to land through their aether armor which increases their mr by 800...and if all else fails stay at 25 meters distance their range is 21 meters and if you only use instant/ movable skills like magic implosion, erosion, chain of earth, soul torrent...it will save your life.

with assassins my best advice is to study their skills because it sounds to me like your loosing because of a lack of knowledge.

sins are either going to stun you in hopes that you waste your remove shock skill and loose the stun resist buff and go for the stun lock , go for pure dps you down before you can react or they are gona stun you let u waste remove shock , run off and come back in for the stun lock...you need to be able to recognize what they are doing when they are doing it to win. Elyos sins are different from asmo sins...elyos sins are going to have a higher survival rate vs mages because they have multiple resist skills...its not necessary to get a lock on a sin to win either most of the time its going to be a gradual damaging down their hp with mostly instant skills.

 

okay i will study assasins elyos skill.
well i see templars now getting easier xD i will try first to efford donation gear and donation acc and god stone once iam done with that i will go vs assassins alot to see what i can do it is easy to get done and tail away from them templars are easier now .
but before i say thank's and ask for thread to be closed
please update your thread it's very usefull it made me star officer 3 with effort and normal gear xD and please tell me a combo once iam far from assassin and didnt use my removal shock just a combo to lock and kill same time plz xD and thanks

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and is the summon spirits help ? those spirit servants i see some spirit masters summon them vs me i usually kill them but why do they even summon them and is there is a combo that require them xD? ??