Changes for Lumiel

stigma sistem and eu host for lumiel?
i think is nothing to lose,from 30-40 players online in both side 15 of them are eu players so,u can lose 20-25 players if they dont like but,assian players got allmost same ping in eu host and na.
the point in my oppinion is that sever risk to lose 20 players and nothing more
the advantage is that allmost all european players from siel will move to lumiel any many more eu players who are allready in free-to-play and wanna play in a private server cuz that sucks!
i'm from Europe and i will move to lumiel with my friends if will be an european server,stigma sistem sounds good for us.

 

Yes , I had Jade Dinasty server with a friend hosted in Europe , in Romania we had allmost all time 250-300 players online and max ping on the server was 80-90 and there played guys all over the world Asia , USA , EUROPE and nobody was complaining about ping
I was gm on a Forsaken Wolrd server who was hosted in Germany and same thing nobody was complaining about ping max ping were areound 60 and there were guys in both example who had 10 ms, maybe on lumiel are ppls who have 10-20 ms now too but diference between 10 ms and 60-90 is not big , but diference between 20 ms and 250-300 is huge
I can give you more examples if you want i had MUonline server like 7 years ago , Counter Strike server etc.

 

Lumiel might not move to Europe because then, it will be the same as other private server who have both NA and EU servers. We don't want to copy another private server because we are not that server and our server policy is completely different.

Bad joke aside, there has been an old poll about moving the server to EU, it was a landslide victory for a yes but guess what? It didn't happen and then Lumiel became what it is now. Tho there's a little chance it might happen this time since it's the owner himself who made this thread with it's poll included, no one can still say for sure until it happens. I'm sure a lot of people still remember the time when HAC (Shedim Herald now) was added to BCT despite claiming that it will never come out leaving players who spent lots of credits on EAC / ACD with a WTF moment and some shedding tears for spending credits on supposedly best gear during that time. The point here is that even if a staff member regardless of position confirms something, it's hard to trust the confirmation because of history such as this.

Now to the problem with this poll. It's yet to be confirmed if ABSOLUTELY, just in case the poll ends with a result of a yes to Lumiel being a European server, is it going to happen? FOR SURE?

If yes, how legitimate is the poll's result? Check out the people who voted on the poll.

Even if it becomes confirmed, how trustworthy is the confirmation going to be given the server's reputation of confirming something and then doing the other way around later on?

People who voted for Yes are mostly(not all) people who are going to benefit into Lumiel being a European server by having a lower ping. A few of them could be people who actually wants a change on the server, myself included. Lumiel being EU or NA server doesn't matter to me because ultimately, I'm still gonna be playing with 3 digit ping, more or less 200ms. It's not whole lot different from Lumiel being NA server where I was playing with 250ms-350ms+. I voted for Yes because based from my personal experience playing several Aion private servers, there are more skilled players on EU servers than NA servers. If by any chance, Lumiel turns into European server and attracts decent EU players then that means more challenge in PvP and obviously more fun, for me at least.

People who voted for No are mostly(not all) people who can't afford to lose their 2 digit ping domination over high pinged players or Siel people who are scared of Lumiel's potential to attract their players leaving their server with less players once it turns to European server. If that happens, they're gonna get screwed because they will surely not prefer to move to Lumiel once it turns to European server and play with higher ping plus with stigma system.

To put it short, this poll has a lot of biased votes on it that's not going to help the server.

What's the main goal here? Is it to bring back players who once played on Gamez? If it is, then the old poll regarding the same topic should be the one to be considered because old players were still able to vote back then.

Is it to bring players that are completely new to Gamez? If it is then the admins need start thinking out of the box but the biggest problem starts here. You can't expect to revive a dying server simply by moving it from NA to EU because there are also other private servers with both NA and/or EU servers. The wanted changes we want that Carl is asking comes here but again, another problem comes along with it.

Suggest something good and something that works but similar to another private server. What you get? A raging no because it would mean copying them. Let me ask this then. Why did Gamez copied other private server by being a high rate server? Because it works!

Since copying an idea from another private server is against this server's policy then fine, let's be original. Suggest something original that's haven't been tried by another private server. What you get? Still a raging no. Why? Because apparently it's not possible even tho they haven't tried it. I mean, damn, at least say "we will think about it" or "we will try" even if it would be a lie. If not, you get an answer something along the lines of "it's hard to do", well damn, you don't really expect that reviving a dying server would be easy, right?

Bottom line, where do we stand?

Conversation between me and another staff member from long ago. Things that are obviously worth a try and still not implemented until now and are being suggested over and over. Just one example of what is it like to suggest.

 

There is no need to hide my name from the conversation, also your suggestion about crafting skills has been accepted and will be implemented with this patch.

 

I did it out of respect. I'm not arguing here for the sake of it. I do want Lumiel to get better since both Ruiko and Kosame are willing to come back with me. This is the only server where I have enough left to help them get endgame gear if ever we feel like playing Aion again. The only thing left we're waiting is for Lumiel to actually be a better PvP server thus my efforts in suggesting and arguing about things that I think will do the job even if it means I have to go against people who used to agree with the things I say but eventually started disagreeing after they became staff member and turned a blind eye on negative things about the server that could be fixed or improved. You guys know who you are

 

What race are you K on Lumiel ?

 

I'd even be happy if only the 10% godstones were removed lol 1% -6% godstones are hardly gamebreaking (unless your a gunner lolz) ...and people would still donate for the 5% fk. And the starting set should be no lower than hac..or why would you even bother? lol

 

there is no point to remove godstones in my opinion

 

Both. I played both races. I switch depending on which race can have a more challenging PvP.

There is. It makes the PvP more interesting in a way that it becomes slightly more skill over luck. It also makes dealing with the zergs more bearable. A lot of people who zergs are under-geared people but as long as they have a godstone on their weapon even if they don't deal much damage on you and/or your group, there's a high chance they're going to screw you over with that nasty godstone procs.

In turn, a more interesting PvP could bring more players in. New players and old players who long ago wished for the godstones to be removed.

 

For lumiel you could implement free plastic surgery or name changes ...I imagine name changes dont generate as much profit as plastic surgery but well ...I dont imagine lumiel is generating much of any profit atm lol.

 

bulgaria best host one of the best internet

 

No, that would make Grrr too op and I'd hate to face that hoe with a 5ms Glad chasing me down somewhere >.>

 

i like 10% godstone to be removed, fvck they are OP, think about a class who can wield 2 gun and sword or hammer with 2 silence on it, damn its annoying specialu for us magic wielders and single weapon users, last time I was very annoyed is when I fought this gunner named Twice in mix, his godstone proc everytime the other gs was disabled by the pot, so calling it a joker is bad, actually thats not real PvP anymore coz they rely on that too much, and this server doesnt really gain much profit on it coz I know lots of people always try to fvck the system just like what they did on Dragon Days and Alchemy, this guys fvck always found godstone on the box

 

Removing godstones on Lumiel might be a good idea, but on Siel, hell naw. With all the stigmas, some clerics, especially the low ping ones, are so OP to fight against sometimes that for example normal SMs need the help of a silence godstone to kill them. Yeah, assassins are really annoying with their constant paralyze, and gunners are a pain in the ass with their massive damage procs, but it still doesn't hurt to have them. D:

 

If ur on ely side that would be great.

Well yes, if only they dont proc so much. Dual para sins in lumiel can practically stun lock u to death.. All it takes iz 2 or 3 skills plus a bit of weave. If ur below plate but quick u might be able to land a skill or two, that includes remove shock... Still most of these sins are either good, full arbi geared, and/or have nice pings so they're pretty much god. The only consolation about these sins is that theres only a few of them (low ping, clever, and/or full geared) in lumiel... the only one ive seen after a few weeks of playing again is Kiyomi on ely side.. Thank god.

 

Yeah because they all transferred to Siel and now we have to put up with them Q-Q
*cries forever*

 

It's biased in the sense that a good portion of players who voted has no/little relevance to the server (at this current time). Many of which also doesn't play it and/or transferred away from the server. That in itself is the downfall of Lumiel. It is the people who have kept it alive for a year has suddenly decided to leave for Siel, and thus started a chain reaction as sheep jump bandwagons and follow the shepherd. You may ask, considering so many people transferred to Siel, why is Lumiel still averaging a population? It is because miraculously there is still new people coming every month. It was not many, but still new faces nevertheless.

Like I've outlined in a previous reply, the difference in latency whether it is located in NA or EU actually has very minor drawbacks to gameplay. You said that the American players voted 'No' because they want their 2 digit pings to dominate other players. Looking it from that perspective, doesn't the European players want the same thing? I can count at least 10 posts in this thread replying that they want the server in their backyards for their self gains. Not to mention, there is actually a fair amount of Asian players who've voted Yes/No. I valued you as a skilled player, you've shown me (and others) that skill can triumph over latency advantages. Therefore it is also not about latency/ping as well.

What the poll actually illustrates is the distribution of players AND the people's willingness to play on an EU server. IF we had every single person who've voted 'Yes' in the poll be online on Lumiel right now. In-addition to few others logged ingame (many don't check forums), Lumiel would indeed be a populated server. So begs the question, out of the portion of players/users who voted in the poll, how many percent % do you think will actually transfer to Lumiel and remain an active player there. That is the underlining question. It doesn't matter WHERE the server is located, it could be in London, Berlin, Luxemburg, doesn't matter. What matters is will people keep by their words. Though this doesn't look like very promising as it is currently 50% discount on transfer and there's not much demand, expecting a free transfer instead.

 

I would transfer if I kept my keybinds (yes really is this lazy) and very very expensive fuse...but that wont happen maybe they should put them in the item shop...might happen?...guess we will see lol.

 

let's go ethan, me and you, Lumiel.

 

Yeah that annoying sin. Oh remember when cyrus went afk (ragequit ofc) after dying so many times cuz of him? Lol
His annoying para procs a lot and obviously he's fully geared. I even thought that was Tokak's alt char ;p
Also, Sakuraa and Jeraa are not pro sins, esp. sakuraa tho jeraa is a good one.