Help For Manastone Build up

Someone did that's why i got all mad boy i apologize for that. I think a low geared glad has a hard time either build he goes, full arb if u run arb+arb fusion u transform into a monster,literally. When u don't have such gear obviously u won't deal such damage but also u won't be able to get a certain ammount of accuracy, if u use extensible weapon against a block/evasion user it wont help it much, only if u get even more flat manastones on the weapon but a templar can outdamage u that way(templar not even op cough cough)
When i played glad i was using this gear

I was beating some sorcs now and then,assassins were relatively easy, the good ones who covered blind were a little more hard to beat but still nothing special.. for the extensible weapon i was using Crit/Attack stones instead of Attack/Crit so i could get higher crit strike since extensible makes u lose stats...
This wasn't on gamez i didn't run woc but i could still be pretty fast but yet again there i saw accuracy glads doing good, i just don't know about accuracy builds against killer classes wich u should kill faster than them and glad stigma tree doesn't changes much independently of wich manastone build u use.. But this is just 2 good builds. this one is my favorite all time but maybe a more defensive glad may go for accuracy instead of attack

 

Hi, well, my opinion is, there is no perfect set if its that you looking for.
But the more generic set will be crit/acc until u get 830/850 without scroll, and then atack/acc, but pretty much depends what weapons/accessories/set you are using for your manastone build, so you shoud look for the cap, and not for the number of manastones. For a generic build u shoud get 3.8k acc vs those principal templars. If you got arb weapon with arb fusion, shepherds acessories and arb set, with food, etc you will get around 3.7k/3.8k acc, so you will be ok with your acc, and u probably will not need flat accuracy manastones, but its better you just test by your self the acc you will get.

But if you wanna just get a perfect setup then you need to have more then one set, then you shoud think in which stigma build you are using, if you use alot of lockdowns/ankle snare, "not aggressive build stigma", its not bad you put some macc on your weapon to, and acc on your set, but what i recommend is crit/acc (until u get 850+ crit) + atack/acc + flat acc (only if you need some to get 3.8k acc). If you are using an "agressive build stigma", you shoud just go for atack/crit vs all class without higth block (less then around 3k block. pretty much depends whats your acc with atack/crit set), you will get +15% dmg +- with this build. If you have only one set, then its your choise, more dmg or more versatility vs all class's.

I tested alot of manastones on gladiator by my self, and thats was my conclusion about it. Two sets works perfectly with me, cause i can makro and keybind my sets and switching when i need more acc vs someone. And then atack/crit when i just want to deal alot of dmg. Now its up to you.

If you still need anything, you can also send me a private msg.

 

Those stats doesn't include Passive Skills. Accuracy doesn't only work against block, it works vs evasion build and parry build that a few chanters use. Tell me which build cannot be dealt with accuracy set as a gladiator. If the opponent is MR build then you simply focus on dishing out DPS instead of relying on disabling skills such as using Body Smash instead of Lockdown vs another gladiator/templar/chanter on MR build. Sure, you do a bit lower damage compared to an Attack built gladiator but in exchange, you don't have to worry about situational fights such as people using block/evasion build. It's what you call versatile.

I would like to remind you that I was using Crit/Accuracy plus a greatsword without silence/paralyze godstone when I was dueling you before I quit way back April and was searching for 1v1s. You can't say that an Accuracy built gladiator can't beat a sorcerer, I've proven that before to you. Using block/magic resist/evasion build is nothing to be ashamed of. There are ways to counter them. It's just some people refuse to use the build that would counter them and they want to stick to their damage build while at the same time wanting to have no problem against block/magic resist/evasion builds and calls these builds "gay". That's just being irrational. You can't force people to use a certain build. There are varieties of builds for a reason. One of those reason is so everyone won't be playing with the same exact build that would make that game all about who's faster.

Also, Seoul isn't a fan and not using attack build too but he is able to beat one of the best sorcerers on the other server, Veritaas. The same goes for Rinny and Ecto. They aren't full attack build too, they do socket attack but not pure Attack/X manastone.

Do you know that if 1 player blocks/evades your AoE, everyone else that's within the range of it is going to block/evade it too? That's another reason to go for accuracy build.

Yeah sure, go for leather class on evasion build without having enough accuracy. This leather class then evades your AoE and everyone else will do too, you do no damage to any of them then. It kills your main purpose as a gladiator in a group PvP which is to hit as many targets and as hard as you can with AoE

I would prefer Severe Weakening Blow over Shattering Wave. Also, accuracy isn't defensive build. If I am to say, defensive builds for glads are parry, magic resist and HP builds while the offensive builds are attack, accuracy and magical accuracy.

 

Shattering Wave? your arguments about Gladiator just got invalid..

 

thank you ^^

 

Yeah and i agreed with about the versatile thing, U are right about it

Hum u beated me but i was so noob back then... I'm not saying i am anything pro right now but barely any glad can beat me, Grrr did so yesterday with a stumble into a remove shock, that's one of the ways a sorc can beat a glad, with rng procs, otherwise it is really hard.

Well about the gay stuff i can agree with 50/50. It's like, i don't get enough MA for those MR templars because i don't wanna use supplication of focus, i don't wanna be forced to change my build of stigmas only because there's 3 guys on the server that use that buff with MR set to beat me. But yeah u right i'ma lazy ass fuck and i don't wanna change my build and i also used MR on my sorc but i rather not to and have some more MA. Oh and when i was using MA build i would only take 50% of the HP with my AH combo and i was dead right after so going MA build to beat MR users is not that worth. Atleast for manastones and i know how much i went trough to finally find a way to beat them(ye i'm bad like that xD)

About the gladiator stigmas i tried severe weakening blow but i liked sharp strike more. About shattering wave is just a personal preference. I've seen many people using it and u can't say my argument is invalid lol. Everyone has their own opinion and way to play. I don't claim to be anything uber duper at glad, neither i am at sorcerer but i like to share my opinions and to know others aswell

 

The thing is, you could've used SWB instead of the noob-trap called "Shattering Wave"

It doesn't mean that it's good just because a lot of people are using it..

 

I didn't said that it is good cuz alot use, ye i see ur point but my doubts were always between SWB and Sharp strike. I didn't play glad long enough to get to that conclusion

 

So what were you trying to point out by saying "a lot of people are using it" ?

 

That it made me think it wasn't that bad to use... I always questioned myself about that skill since force blast does pretty much the same but since people around me were using it, ye i used it aswell

 

This thread makes me cry and laugh at the same time.

 

I suggest block.

 

@Markmyword
used it as a point of reference for future glads. im not retarded