Pvp against SW

I missed a lot in Aion because I was away from some time, I'm still trying to figure out a few things about the game, Now I'm playing Glad, and for some reason I can't ever seem to win against a SW in 1on1 PvP, So I'm asking you guys, are Glads weak against SW, Am just making mistakes or is this class just OP for a class that can also heal them self after every round?.
Any info you guys can offer me would be of great help.

 

Bro on a reals, gladiators main weakness, any melee main weakness (cept sins - the good ones at least) is Songweaver. You just have to be Fast, Agile, and Smart. Most of them go for the insta sleep-> para(stagger rest)-> Long sleep. THen dots and then GG. However ,if you can avoid getting sleep the first time by avoid being close to them ankle snare doing ranged stuff you can disrupt their combo enough to get to pot the para so you can save yourself. OUtside of thats its almost impossible to beat an awesome SW in 1v1 ;/

 

I see, so i'll try that, ty for your help Luff.

 

Story of my life.

SW is the nightmare of any Melee class. They are just way too annoying especially against plate classes.
I'm not known as a decent SW but I can second that the two factors that can get an SW lose against any of the two aforementioned classes apparently are either if you have a dang good build with high damage + low ping (or only high damage) OR the opponent SW doesn't know anything of his skills.

What gear are you using btw?

 

TY also for your reply Kessie, are they weak against any other classes?, the SW I mean

 

A well-geared SW not even with decent skills is probably more challenging to kill by any other classes these days but sins and rangers can be a pain in the neck sometimes.

 

They say sorcerers are SW killers but you still have to know your shit anyway.

 

Good sins/rangers cause alot of trouble to songweavers. If you're a glad just go for it and spam every skill. Don't bother running around trying to kite because they're ranged classes and you won't get far. If you waste their remove shock and stun/stumble lock them after their remove shock buff is removed then you will most likely win if you keep them locked. Thus that is why sins/rangers make great SW killers, due to their ability to stun a ton of times and their resist skills too, of course.

Many SW's these days are running around +20 Elite arbiter gears and 2 digit pings so don't even bother trying to beat them unless you're +20 gears as well or really know what you're doing

 

Sw>everyone else.

 

Third Thread about SW? lol

It is funny half of these people who are complaining about SW now, but was the same people who choose to vote against stigma system on siel...

 

And half of the people who are complaining that SW are to OP are people who not even played SW with regular gears, they have only played SW with +20 EA gears. Of course it's over powered >.< If you're like me and played SW since the start without 20+ gears you will know what I'm talking about. It's not really the class, it's the gears/ping. Every class is strong in +20 gears, and 2 digit ping not just SW's. Majority of the server are pinoys with 300 digit ping and custodian gears so you can't think SW is the best class simply because you 2 shot an under geared pinoy. For example 20+ EA SW VS 20+ EA SM - the Sm will most likely win seen as they got the same gears. Imagine Alexmax in +20 Elite arbiter gears. Lol and he ain't SW

Also there was no official thread on voting to turn Siel into a stigma server, so I'm not sure what you're talking about? A normal player created a thread requesting for Siel to be stigma doesn't mean anything if it's not a thread created from Admin/staff. If I can still recall majority of the players voted for siel to be turned into stigma server, yet it didn't ever happen because Admin never had any plans to turn Siel into a stigma server. It's not us players fault for voting no.

 

You really focus on this +20 gears arent you... Started by Admins or not. The thread gave them insights that refused to put the change on on these server probably base on that. Also you are so off topic, this is about bards, you can put +20 on many classes and it will make them more durable for sure. I think you need to see the topic more at hand, instead of just pushing your own agenda. The reason SW are really OP atm, because they have all skills. If they are on stigma server they have to pick a role of either become healer or a nuker, since their stigma is split that way. We made the choice to keep stigma and if you voted no one it so partial fault is yours. Some players just got use to all stigma that is fine its gamez, but you cannot simply just state all bard are OP now because +20 that statement so redundant, before +20 was implemented they were already OP because of new change on skills. You even said that numerous times yourself which is why you looking forward about the big patch of class revamping.

To stay on topic of thread instead of somehow making about yourself, you can agree the fact SW has access on both their nukes and incredible heals gives them quite of range of power other classes cannot phat-om. And you cannot deny either if somehow siel was stigma will SW be the same as they are currently? I think not. Admin does things base on the players wants, its hard for some to believe that but is true. So saying no to thread gave them insight on what to decide upon. You do not complain about SW because you play one. But they are in fact a stronger class from the revamp. Alex does have Shadewing +20 and he uses it quite handy.

So please, if you going to respond to me or other people stop being so transparent about one side of the picture because simple is the side of picture you cannot stand.

SW are pretty OP +20 or not... They just go their skills really working for them.

To get back to the topic IAMTHENEWGUY, yes bard are pretty op especially against glads, but I am guessing mistakes are made on your part as well. Ive seen plenty of glad demolish bard if they play it right.

 

I think that's quite enough from both of you, eh? Stay on topic.

 

SWs especially on a full stigma server and especially after 4.8 are a straight up joke. Don't feel bad for dying instantly to 3 instant nukes one after the other. All I do is smash my hands on my keyboard and bam I've killed 3 people. Just remove them, NCsoft, come on now we all know they are a joke :>

 

From what i have seem the SW isnt exactly plate or melee killer, it's more of a glad killer. Try to fight them with a templar or a chanter, equally geared players and equally skilled. You ll see that it is not that 1 sided after all, the sw will take a lot of time to kill a temp/chanter especially if the other guy is full MR with proper candy/food/scrolls/heagear.
The Glad doesn't have defenses against a SW, it can only win if played correctly, which im pretty sure very few people do.

 

This is true, I have fought a few MR Templar's before and 90% of my skills get resisted. You need an MA set to hit them, and a MA sets means less dmg sadly :3

Temps like Najar, David, Aizome & Amazing are very difficult to beat as a SW. Not many temps are as good as them nor really know how to really kill a SW. I remember fighting Najar once and he killed me with 100% HP with the stumble chain skill combo >.<

 

i liked it how you consider SW as a joke class even though you play one, i totally agree with you. I just hope siel to be a stigma server in the future, so classes won't be as OP as hell especially SWs.

 

If Gunner > SW > Temp > Sin > Sorc > Cleric > Glad > Ranger > SM > Chanter
AT noone play
That means SW < All, since Gunner < Temp, Glad, Sin, Ranger, Sorc, SM, Cleric, Chanter, AT

Or is it Gunner >SW > all = Gunner > all?

Ok but now really

SW < Gunner - even noob must kill SW with gunner...
SW = Sorc - depends who sleep first
SW =< Sin - If you have weak sin vs weak sw, SW win. End game sin must kill end game SW
SW > Glad - magic vs plate, you know
SW >= Temp - If Temp is tricky, he can own SW
SW = Cler - heals heals heals
SW >= Chanter - chanter must be tricky, SW just fast and cover sleep + silence
SW < Ranger - Ranger must kill SW with closed eyes
SW ? AT - idk since no one play AT nowadays (me neither)
SW = SM - fear vs heal well all about your skill
SW > SW - yes one SW must allways kill other sw in 1v1

 

I would like to see a cleric healing without mana.

 

Or it's a 1 hour fight lol