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Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Grayyy, Sep 20, 2015.

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  1. Grayyy

    Grayyy The chillerbee

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    So I log in after 9 months of not playing on Gamez.
    I log onto my chars to check my items and shit.
    I wander around town and hook up with some old people who still are around.
    I then wonder why I can use more than 2 buffs on my Ranger simultaniously.
    The same guy telling me in private that it's considered a bug abuse... files a report
    I get punished for something I couldn't even possibly know...
    I'm not gonna rage about this should be something to be fixed by the responsible part of the staff since players hardly can avoid it... or you seriously want me to remove buffs manually by clicking the icon when I wanna switch my buffs?

    So yeah, seems like this place is fucked up like it was when I left for obvious reasons, cudos to the "staff".

    Really liked coming back to check how things ended up here :rolleyes:
     
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    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    This is exactly what i was telling the OP in skype.

    This thing is inexcusable. This is the server's fault and you can't punish the players for it.

    Guy comes back to gamez (happy face)
    Guy logs his ranger and starts playing (happy face)
    Guy buffs 2 buffs (happy face)
    buffs up another buff in order to switch out the 1st buff used (happy face)
    guy notices that the 1st buff isnt gone, they are all still working (very happy face)
    guy gets reported and gets banned within minutes for something that is not his fault (sad face)

    congratulations gamezaion staff.
     
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  3. Grayyy

    Grayyy The chillerbee

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    Oh and special thanks to Minorak for telling me about this bug and being a dickhead for reporting me a minute after.

    Nice making your acquaintenance ;)
     
  4. Badrobot

    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    Awesome people have many haters.
     
  5. Illusions

    Illusions ß̫͒̃ڻᶇٴᶇٴŷ̪ Ķ̫͌ńĭģĥŧ̝̜᷈ Forum Legend

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    Once again, Staff have nothing to do with fixing bugs. We follow what is being said from our seniors. AM, SAM, HGM, AMOD, MOD, and guess what, SMOD cannot and will not be able to fix anything. It is up to Carl himself to fix these. If you're an old player you should already know this I guess.

    Anyway, OP, welcome back and nice meeting you. I'm Illusions.
     
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    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    I wasnt talking about gamezaion AMS, i was talking about the people who have the power to do something. I understand that you follow orders. But i wonder if you guys have said anything about this to the right people.

    This brings back funny memories with previous bugs. General bug? Taloc bug? heck yea things dont change in here.
     
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  7. Grayyy

    Grayyy The chillerbee

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    I don't consider AMTs, AMs, SAMs, HAMs (Hi Puddles, I'm still missing items from Summer Extravaganza 2013 - glad you are back, you might still remember! /ironie off), Mods, Super Duper Mods, or whatever exchangeable minions get a title here now for being present in forums or ingame as "Staff"... when I talk about "Staff", I'm talking Carl, Josh (still alive?), Lautardo or whoever might be responsible now for fixing stuff...

    It's just silly holding people responsible for a bug that can't even be avoided at all times.
    So consider I'm into a battle and my finger slips over a buff and I accidently pop a 3rd - which shouldn't even be possible in the first place - and you seriously gonna tell me I should be punished for "bug abusing" ?
    That's what I meant when I said: nothing here changed for the better.
     
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  8. Uehara

    Uehara イシ-サマ。(´ε` ) Forum Legend

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    It's only here where you can get the warmest welcome.
    ;)
     
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    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    Hello madam..
     
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    Dimitra 安心。 Forum Legend

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    1. You get an hour long ban because we have tried warning people verbally in the past and it didn't work. How to say this.. People respond different to a ban than to a "don't do it" verbal warning.
    2. Once we saw the verbal warnings did not work and got ignored, I started jailing people for 15 minutes. However not all staff has the power to do so, so our AMs were instructed to give an hour long ban.
    3. Your first ban is a warning. It does not count as bug abuse, meaning in the future, staff will not use that hour long ban as a 1st offense of general "bug abuse". It's merely a warning that gets placed in the form of a ban, but has no bug abuse value or points.
    4. If we followed strict orders, we would give you a 12 hour long ban on your first offense. However we don't because we know it is a server-side fault.
    5. There is NO OTHER punishment that gives you an hour long ban as punishment. So yeah, it is indeed a warning.
     
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    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    Thats useful info. Shelo on his post said -first offense- so one might take it the wrong way.

    In any case, this should be fixed asap.
     
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    Grayyy The chillerbee

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    Hola Dimi, how have u been :p

    But yeah, I sorta was even more annoyed by the awesome community work from that fella up there... being like "Dude, don't do this, it's considered bug abusing" while already putting up a report o_O
     
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    Dimitra 安心。 Forum Legend

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    What I've been saying since day one of these useless and annoying bugs appearing. Trust me we as staff are as annoyed having to ban players every single day for pointless bugs like these as you are.
    However, as stated multiple times, we do not have the power to do so as you all very well know, and we are not informed about when or whether these bugs are ever gonna be fixed.

    So guess we'll all have to wait.

    I've been very good :)
    Ignore that ban, take it as a mere warning like I said. Just don't repeat it which I'm sure you won't, cause after being warned and having full knowledge of the bug, players get normal bug abuse punishments, with the only exception of the permanent account lock which I doubt will happen to anybody. Mostly because of the fact that like you guys said, these bugs can easily be abused accidentally, for example a ranger switching buffs having 3 on and deleting one, and a player taking a screenshot for the mere second that he had the 3d buff on. Because of that, the chances of an account being terminated due to that kind of bug abusing are slim to none.

    Side note; There are a few other bugs from different classes that will get you the same results if you abuse them. If you wanna avoid being in the same situation or end up banned for something you didn't know about, send me a PM and I'll inform you about the other bugged skills. I won't post them here for.. obvious reasons. Not like people don't know about them already, but it's not that wise to have them full out in public willingly :p
     
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    Minorak Professional Fearer

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    Dude, I told you it's considered bug abusing. You said don't care only looking, so I reported. You didn't take my warning seriously so your fault, if you listened I wouldn't have reported, instead you buffed up to max.
     
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    Should have taken the hint that hes "only looking" instead of being an asswipe perhaps.
     
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    BetaMax Lord Emperor Forum Legend

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    good thing its not such a serious offense and it was forgiven.
     
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    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    Hows your plumming buddy?
     
  18. Minorak

    Minorak Professional Fearer

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    I told him he could be banned for bug abusing, he said he "didn't care" if I didn't do it anyone could have didn't you see any of the other people in the pic? Any of those could have done it and be them the op is flaming at. But I'm not worried either way, not here to make friends at all, bug abuse is bug abuse if I abuse it I wouldn't cry about or make a thread about it. Bug abuse is just that, after being informed of it, then using it more and more is just ignorance not "just looking".
     
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  19. Razor

    Razor Master of Disguise Forum Legend

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    tbh I only report the people who piss me off while or after bug abusing, it's a matter of principle - if you think you taught him a lesson it's fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion.
     
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    Well I did tell him not to, but he ignored my warning. If he'd listened I wouldn't have reported, my SS folder is full of people bug abusing, many I've not reported because I explained to them it's bug abuse and they stopped.
     
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