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Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Sekizan, Dec 30, 2018.

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  1. Sekizan

    Sekizan New Member

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    Reduce magic classs too op wtf
     
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    They not op if people think b4 they post crap the bl and prime ea which ever gear ur using has no pvp defence or magic defense if u take the time to look at ya stats on the profile page that's why people like ya self and others claim magics are op cos they destroy all classes atm cos no one has any new gear yet
     
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    yestown099 Getting there

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    you nerf the ranger and sin but you dont nerf the sw socr and other class , tha ranger now have no damage at all to low damage
     
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    Why can't people get it through there thick skulls old gear is useless now
    Get some new gear and see the difference yes some classes are bugged like glad where it's buffs don't actually work like they should chanters blessing Rock is bugged
    Temps can bodyguard them self's not seen a report bout that yet
    But I guess all them sin and ranger users want to 2 hit everyone with 1 skill active ever 30 secs cos gaining over 6000k weapon damage is great when it was a bug and no sin or ranger wanted to report it cos it made them "pro"
    But now it's got a little fix/nerf it's bad cos sins and rangers can't 2 hit everyone now just wait till all the bugged skills are fixed and u gain new pvp items then complain
     
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    try to make a ranger and sin sir so that you can know what happen to it and get a new gear before you comment like that try to make ranger and get new gear well see if you have damage
     
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    Exactly these people who are complaining now think they were nerf'd when they were only normalized. Magic defense does work vs Magic attack perfectly fine, but with BL/prime it's broken + the stats are non existent and/or extremely low.

    Also I did test my physical damage against a gladiator who had only the weapon (new 6.2) against my full geared up gladiator in 6.2 items, and the damage was a bit weak, but that was only so because he didn't have the appropriate PVP attack to match my PVP defense that I had + my other higher stats due to the new gear. I then removed all of the gear pieces leaving the accessories, and his damage went up. I am going to test it more extensively to iron out things, but once skills are reworked and looked at, all should be proper.

    he does have the full gear, so he is speaking from experience. But he knows that you guys do not have the magic defense to match the magical attack he has thus his high damage as a mage. Your magic defense (Magic suppression) cannot withstand someone who has 16, 17k magical attack (magic boost) so you get hit extremely hard, this is clockwork, always has been.
     
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    Alright buy me some new armor cos I already have magic and I will put it on ranger and see how bad people are at playing ranger
    Its not my fault playing with full new gear and ruining the fun in a ffa by 2-3 hitting people without buffs on but there are people with new gear that last longer then all the others that whine like 4 year olds cos they get one shotted
     
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    you buy it so that you will know i know you are a magic type thats why you are defensing it
     
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    Omg u idiot can't u read what u told the old bl prime and other trash items are useless now cos the stats don't exist in game so anyone with new gear will totally trash u cos u got stats that mean nothing on ya gear now
    But I guess u think ur ea bl or prime has enough magic defense to stop 17k magic attack I don't think so
     
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    You can literally quit playing ranger/sin if you do. Inform yourself better before playing those 2 classes. I just want to inform you, 6.0 patch is about player abilities and own game tactics, that's why fights are more dynamical than the previous patches. Playing sin and ranger will be VERY hard once things will work properly...and not only for these 2 classes.
     
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    Exactly right nick plus if people played retail they might work out how to play this version of aion it's not like it was B4 update u really need to think now not just smash ya fist or face on keyboard and launch off skills to kill someone
     
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    Call me rude, stupid or whatever you prefere to define me, but truth is: gamezaion is full of pinoys (like 90%) who have no idea about the game, don't blame me if i call everybody as "retard" when you all can see the STUPID things they say eveywhere, just proving they don't know an absolutely *poop* about how things work, even though they are on this server for quite long time.
    As i said, since 6.0 fights changed in a more dynamical way, where EVERY class has the chance to kill the other class, it's all based on your playstyle and moves. Obviously some classes have some advantage against others, plate>leather leather>cloth and so on...but there is an higher chance for everyone to kill any class using any class.
    PLUS, as some (80+%) of you guys didn't notice those "Ultimate Cloud War" items have RANDOM BONUSES, https://aioncodex.com/us/item/110550072/ https://aioncodex.com/us/item/121003062/ https://aioncodex.com/us/item/101550039/ https://aioncodex.com/us/item/101550037/ , hence: giving those items while having a lame starter gear will just lead to have a very unbalanced PVP among starters and full geared. Wondering why? As now, you may have noticed those random bonuses include healing boost/parry/block stats...what would happen if a cleric would use block+healing boost stat? It would need a cap and in any case, there would be no chance for starters to even remove half life of full geared ppl. Imagine healers using healing boost (almost 1k without any skill boosting), sw/chanter/cleric will literally be IMMORTALS and there's no way to kill them in solo (you can say bye bye to 1v1 fights/in-game events and so on...). Hmmm changed idea about having those kind of items? I seriously doubt most of you were already aware about this.
     
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    I wouldnt call it rude nick ur right u see how many try to face tank a sin as a cloth user cos they have zero clue how to play or seeing sins fully buff to try burst a class down and wonder why all the damage is gone and the person they are attack is still there with 80% health cos 1 they don't read skills 2 they waste skills 3 they chose a class they can't even play
    And knew bout them gears nick cos I play retail aswell
     
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    Don't forget physical atk wasn't included aswell. :D
     
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    Rude and all the rest aren't referred to the game, but about what i think of 90% of gamez population and especially "unbrained" ppl who complain on everything on the moment something is hard to achieve.
    About the game...who ever told a sin/ranger will win 90+% of times against magicals or that sm/sorc/bard will 100% win against temp/glad because they have lesser defense/resist skills than other classes? In this patch glad acquired https://aioncodex.com/us/skill/5086/ which helps against magicals, or you can use https://aioncodex.com/us/skill/5085/ depending on the situation you are. You just need brain to handle things and to play smart. Those are just examples how every class has a chance to win against any other class. In my experience i can ASSURE you, that glads "should"/will be able to kill leathers/cloths/chains very easily (like 5-6 skills) on the moment they will be full geared with the right manastone build and bonuses (not caring about the current "Masterwork" gear or "Cloud War") just using the right skills (buff+combo) on the right moments. It will be a very dangerous class, same for other classes...
    As for now, the 6.2 patch isn't even complete...lots of skills should be removed/deleted, skills stats are kinda messed up (same for transformations). Another thing i doubt you guys were aware of is: you may have not noticed some buffs are about % (6-10-12-20-30 phys attack or 25%HP) and not about amounts (1000 attack - 1500 hp and so on)...this means the more attack/hp you socket with manastones or bonuses etc, the more attack/hp you will have on the moment you use that determinate buff. Example...you have 11234 phys attack and use 12% phys attack buff? You will have 11234*12 / 100=1348 P.attack on more (12500 attack, with buff you will have 14k p.attack because it's 12500+1500, and so on)...same for hp: 50k hp+25% buff=62.5k HP (and now the buff is broken cuz it gives like 3-2k hp as before). Got what i mean now?
     
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    I know nick cos some tech skills are the same they don't give the right stats let alone the right damages but people have zero clue cos they think it's same in 5.2 and 5.8 they don't look up skill changes or patch notes to find out what has changed
    If people would wait till lakrum weeklies and main quest lines are actually implemented so they can be done people will see the difference in stats and damages in pvp and pve but cos people are still thinking we are 5.2 they still think prime and bl are best gears when they are useless in 6.2

    All the skills need to be gone through if people took the time to test and report and not just whine cos they get trashed by magics, fixes wouldn't take so long to be done cos it gives staff chance to test and fix quicker if people report what they find instead of staff having to answer people's issues and seek out bugs all in the same time frame they are online
     
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    Like i said, there's a lack of informations. Is up to players having a read about patch notes or things outside this forum...it's like going to read a different school book which talks about the same subject. Things are never the same, but similar...and as for this server, there never have been informations at all by admins (things were and are left to staff members and community, isn't it?), players had to discover things on their own and then share with the rest of the communtiy. I've always thought, example: on the moment you give a medicine to somebody who doesn't even know what that is, you have to inform about the pro and cons not letting that person experience things on own. It's neither a bad choice to leave the place you live to travel and make other experiences just to achive more knowledge. Am i wrong?
     
  18. cocosul

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    I don't think it's all about gear, even with 6.2 enchanted gear, full set/acces it was 40k dmg from robot. as about stats, it's clearly higher the magical attack than it should be. I guess that with time. everything will get fixed, but it's not as it should be, no matter what.
     
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    imrahil Asmo's face smasher

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    Nope ur right nick but it only takes 30secs to find patch notes for 6.2
    What was ya magic defence then cocosul cos I doubt I hit u with 40k damage on my tech
    Unless I had aether charged steel on which is bugged and has been reported
     
  20. cocosul

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    nah, my magic it was fine, everything enchanted +10
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