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Solved Fused daggers ?

Discussion in 'Questions' started by Idrilke, Feb 14, 2019.

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  1. Idrilke

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    Hi,
    Fused daggers ???
    4 diffrents persons (elyos side and asmo side) told me sins could play with fused daggers. And I saw effectivily sins who can kill 50K HP dudes with 3 hits, 3 times in raw and in less than 1min.
    If this is confirmed, I plead for the deletion of the fused one handed weapons even if fused with UMC. When u fuse one handed weapon, you cannot ignore you're cheating... And if u add they can play with fuse amonos... that's just crazy. And Yes, let's talk about Amonos :~)

    ... AMONOS
    yesterday it was Amonos free farm for elyos and once they got the extendables weapons, they cried to get it removed from the server which is now done.
    I'm a bit worried, because it was a good occasion to pvp or just meet elyos and/or play elyos side for a moment. It made the server live for a day despite the login issue and today : no more Amonos, no more people

    can u confirm or not this story of fused daggers ? (and maybe give your advise about Amonos removal, is a good thing or not from your point of view ?)
     
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  2. Luff

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    without proof this is garbage. The only reason why people dying quickly at the moment is because of the broken crit system, once that's fixed everything will be fine. Damage itself is fine.

    Anomos is a PVE weapon, which makes it far less useful than the Drunken Lakrum... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay useless for it's weaker by default and it's PVE by default which makes it pretty useless in player vs player counters. it being removes makes you lose nothing, you're better off voting and getting a drunken Lakrum, esp since re-tuning works and manastone socketing and fastening works.
     
  3. Kirnick

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    Fusing Dagger? o_O whatever. Crit system? Yes, still setted as old one. DMG fixed? Not at all, just noticed glad does almost the same dmg of a full buffed sin while being without buff (berserking)...obviously talking about same gear.
     
  4. Idrilke

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    Thy for your reply Luff
    The only one wxho got proof are probably those who have fused and I expect them to be smart enough to remain silent about it.... But maybe a gm could look into the gears of the 10 first sins of each side to see if fused daggers are legend or are for real.

    About Amonos :
    I play magic, so I finally don't care about extendables ;~) I got an utlimate orb, an ultimate canon and legendary harp, so i'm not angry at all, lot of people just got nothing XD
    It is just it was fun to have something new on the server, to meet people like in the good old days
    I also understand, this is not retail like at all to kill Amonos in 20s and to get those weapons which are usually hard to get. That's why I asked for players advise on this. The 2 point of view seems valuable for me
     
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    daevanion skill box giving other class skills bug, it turns out those 750 credits ones are bugged too, dont make more people waste their credits bro, those 1 credits box maybe not so much but the 750 credits too ppl gonna cry for it
     
  6. Kirnick

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    yup, still waiting to be refunded with the right skill of the class i opened with.
     
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    I guess I'll be spending some time refunding those with proof of purchase aye... not sure why that decomp is broken , but will have keen eyes have a closer look into them.
    Also @Kirnick are these glads that are doing the "OP" Damage, are they using the regular UMC spears or the Ultimate Drunken Lakrum? Not sure if you guys realize this, but that weapon really and truly supersedes even the stats of the Ultimate Firebrand/Cloud War.
     
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    Glad is "Crossed", i think he is with extend+umc spear...anyway, i'm 101% sure if the gear will remain like this, things will be quite balanced...giving cloud war items will kinda ruin the balance and the server will be full of sw/chant due to the OP healing (otherwise need to cap it). I saw chanter healing 4k with rejuvenating spell which is 20k in total without healing boost stats (wondering what might happen with cloud war items OR even without them and just using protective ward=200HB + winter circle=500HB, will let them heal about 6k=30k in total with 1 skill every 10 sec).
    Why do you think i bought x2 extend daggers then? the only flaw is it lacks of crit in bonus stat...who cares anyway, with 6 slot can replace that crit with the manastones.

    P.S: i noticed we can't get HB/MP stat on ultimate drunken weap while on anomus we can...if there would be a way not to give those stats as cloud war items, then wouldn't be an unbalanced class system.
     
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  9. Idrilke

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    Cloth classes have been so ineffective under 5.3, that would be fair to up them a little,... What I say that because I'm sw,... Y for sure, but Glad and have always been the more effective classes since Aion 1.0 XD
     
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    yeah it was working properly before because i bought 1 of those 750 credits skills for my SIN back then and got serial slash, the problem from recent patches
     
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    Anomos is PVE and none of these 'stats' were prevented or implemented by us, that was all Ncsoft.
    All i see here is you complaining basically that healing classes will be able to actually OP heal and be increasingly hard to kill. Lucky for you there's stumble, stun, other classes with 'silence' skills, etc etc you name it, whoops, the game gets really interesting yes? The reason it is difficult isn't of some imbalance in the skills, but it lies in the fact that every class, have every single skill available, if it were stigma system, no class would be over powered in healing and dmg dealing at the same time, the stigma system is where the REAL balance is, sadly enough and clearly enough this server is harder on pvp because we disregard the stigma system put in place by ncsoft.

    We'll get back to you all on this and see what kinda fix we can put into place, clearly the item itself needs to be fix, but I am making reference to issuing the correct skills to those who have bought the box and didn't get what they should've .
     
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    Are you talking with cloud war items? I said if we would have cloud war items with healing boost stat, i'm pretty sure sw/chant will be the most used classes. Stun/stumble/silence you say? Not really effective against a chant which has x2 good low cd shield skill and x2 Remove Shock (btw chanter in a stigma server with dps stigma can self-heal pretty well to survive 2v1). SW? sleep-heal-root-para and GG...silence resistance skill should work so low % of being silenced and it has stun resist skill as well. Cleric? Will heal non stop while using support set and being quite immortal tanking x2-3 players.
    I can cleary see that by myself and i knew it long time ago...what i said is: as bonus stat ultimate drunken should give mp and healing boost too while it doesn't...retuning anomos, it gives those stats.
     
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    No offense, I don't really care for your played out scenarios to make it seem as if that's how it will always happen clock work, because it never really is, not everyone plays the same way not everyone is skilled the same way and that's what makes a game diverse. But even if cloud war items do gets entered into the game, making whatever class can heal even more proficient and 'used more' it really doesn't matter because 1v1 is what you're talking about here and personally, that isn't PVP. The way how 6.2 is set up you're hardly ever going to find yourself in alone, unless you pick some absurd time to do certain tasks where no one will bother you. There is no balance to balance, because imbalance is what makes a game balanced and imperfections is bliss.

    I stand by my statement above.
     
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    Obviously 1v1 is important...1v1 isn't PVP? okay, will respect your opinion. Won't find alone in a server populated by pinoys which at a certain time make the server empty? What about 1v1 portal or 1v1, kor, tournament gm events? Not every1 is skilled and plays the same way, but there are ppl that know what to do and when. 6.X is the patch where fights and especially 1v1 became more dynamical without godstone and where to win you have to use tactic.
     
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    Sorry but this server with the current situation is not at all funny or happy. It is empty at all times. Change the states of the race just to please a particular group, in the event of closed event portals for more than a month and the only portal that is left is used by an abuser at all times.
    I do not understand how this server without events, without sieges, without rounds of 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 can be something entertaining. The evidence is obvious. This server if it continues like this will end up dying soon.
     
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    Yup mate, Gamez is dead
     
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    Since lots of players are asking me to link my dagger and if i fused it, or bug abuse or cheat...i'll try to explain those geniuses how the story is. I'm 101% sure a guy bought UDL dagger WITHOUT knowing what "RETUNING" is. Once retuning became available, me and some ppl who were aware of, simply retuned udl weapons and additional bonus stats were (still are) added. On the moment one of us linked the dagger, the same top notch genius guy thought we abused a glitch by fusing udl dagger with umc due to the bonus similar stats. With passing of time the rumor has spread and players who noticed sins are doing too much dmg, in additional to this guy fused-dagger theory, simply started accepting it without even knowing about retuning tough. GG to those ones...
    (Talking as SIN-STATS, but similar stats applies to other physical classes which i didn't check&test my own aside for chanter) Physical&Magical DMG is way much because "Weapon Dmg" stat is x3.5 times higher than the original one (being full UMC), in additional to this RIGHT NOW cubics+minion physical attack stats are counted as weapon-dmg stat, hence instead of having around 250 weapon dmg (as it's supposed to be), we (sin) have 1150+ weapon dmg. Not mentioning Crit System is still broken and capping it as % (same % for all classes) won't bring a balance (plus, with this crit-buffs are going to be nullified). Caster classes will be disadvantaged while physical ones (faster hits) will have more chance to crit (sins? don't have to explain).
     
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    There is no need to prove anything. I don't understand the point of making up false rumors and empty accusations through private messages. What for? Just to make those who play the game better than others look bad? One handed weapons cannot be fused. End of topic.
     
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