Damage Reduction

Aw she was asking me. :unsure:

 

i can't kill a chanter anymore...:crying:

 

It's not even needed to freakin search, the other topic is in the latest post box D:

 

MP can be just another strategy is PvP... outlasting your opponents and etc.

I used to run out of MP quickly with abyss sets, so I use miragent's to compensate lol

 

Me crying.... ok lol. Every one of my posts has had information and reason. But I need to keep things clean so this thread does not get closed, so please don't start.

I am a sorc who's played for a long time, has experience, and people like having around, that's who I am. Retail PvP videos =/= personal experiences, don't make me say more.

If a fight lasts that long, that means the sorc was busy running most of that time ( NOT using MP ), otherwise you'd see people dying. Or the sorc was one of those baddies that jump into a fight and spam glacial hoping it kills someone from full HP, in that case they are not playing as they should be, and my argument is not about them.

 

Life is good, to is this, NO MORE CHANGE

 

You're allowed to tell me I'm talking out my ass, but I compare it to you crying and I'm flaming you? lawl.
Sure person experience > watching a video but using common logic that an extended battle would eventually ware out your mana regardless if its retail or a pserver which was my point.
Case in point, there are ways to preserve mana. Regardless as to if you see those ways as "invalid" or not, they work, they give you mana. Learn to incorporate them into your strategy. It seems like you're too busy feeling that your way of pvping wouldn't be improved on by using the games mechanics and instead would rather complain that they made something slightly more difficult.

 

MP consumption is extremely high for a sorc compared to other classes, I'm sitting at 12k with Miragent and that still isn't enough. The point is that the length of PvP should not be affected by a global reduction of this level, because it makes it impossible to kill certain classes due to our burst-type system.

 

tbh our "4 sec" casting has been cut down quite a bit with passive boosts and buffs (heh with veizel alone and a wep (possibly gaunts) its already half that time. yes we run out fast but then again our dmg is significantly higher than others (if u talk about DPS then yeah we have the highest) xD

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some skills have a much higher mp cost than ud like (such as the...freezing wind was the name i think) which is instant and short cd but high mp consumption. just avoid skills like that if ur low

 

When I said that, it was to make a point. You replied with something to get back at me out of the pure sake of arguing.

Do you understand that I'm asking for it to be lowered, because it's too high and actually NOT part of the game mechanics? I want things to be the way they are SUPPOSED to be - not MY way. If you have any PvP experience at all, you'd see what it has done to your damage, or you might be playing a class that has short cooldowns and can wither down your target, then I can understand where you coming from, and this thread is not for you.

Sorcs were given ways to replenish mana quickly, and those are anticipated to be conserved and used well in a fight. Things like mana treatment are meant for PvE purposes or in large scale PvP, which again... is not what I'm talking about.

 

60%..wew now lets see a templar or a chanter... we are doomed

 

No offensive Mystearica, the moment Annoymous mentioned the methods that could be used for the MP problems, the debate was won. Use the MP pots the moment the fight starts and have a set which don't use the same cool down.

Still on the side for the damage reduction, it finally enables a bit of strategic pvping and not a single combo move from one class to take down all kinds of other classes.

 

Because I have nothing better to do than argue with you about sorcs.
I don't recall you ever posting when sorcs were doing way higher damage than retail. So much for wanting things the way they're SUPPOSED to be. Yes, I pvp quite a bit actually on several different classes. And I still think its a good update.
Who are you to judge what situations mana treatment was meant to be used? Did you help develop Aion? Is there a hidden tool tip somewhere that I've yet to see that says mana treatment is fail to use in pvp situations?
No I doubt it.
It's part of the game, use it to your advantage and stop making half arsed arguments about why you shouldn't use it here, because it's not MEANT to be used there.
Says who? :<

 

Who are you to be telling me that judging when and where to use skills for my class is not right? PvP is all about judgement and knowing when to use skills. Some are not meant for PvP - you've never played a sorc, so you'd have a hard time understanding. That's why every class was given the skill, because it's for PvE - not PvP. Just because it's a skill put in the game doesn't mean that it doesn't have its times of usefulness and uselessness. IE: Deaggro skills, I don't see you using those in PvP to make people get off you, do I?

Why would I post a complaint about something I like? Is that what people do? Everyone was doing higher damage so there was no need.

 

id say depending on ur tactics it can be used in pvp too xD seen people do it like...sleep/tree/root and u just got urself ur 4 seconds for mp treatment xD

 

None taken, and I've given my reasons as to why those shouldn't have to be used in group PvP. Using MP pots means putting HP on cooldown, using Serums means not having them when you actually need the HP.

The game was built that way, if you try to play god with the mechanics and use balance as an excuse when you change the same thing for every class, it's going to cause these kinds of problems.

 

this is the worst shiit ever.....now beat templar with abg +15....it will be like world boss...rangers are now so weak

 

When did I say I never played a sorc? I just said i don't currently.
Even if I've never touched a mage class in my life, it doesn't make me retarded to the logical solution to the problem you're complaining about. Second guessing WHY a skill was put in the game is ridiculous, even if that is the initial reason for it being there, that doesn't make it any less useful in any other situation.
Comparing mana treatment to a skill that lowers agro is a fail argument at best. Wanna know why? Mana treatment regains your mana, which is useful universally, a deaggro skill only works on mobs.
See the difference?

And just because everyone else does it doesn't mean its not broken. You yourself said you wanted things to work like they should, it wasn't and you didn't complain then.

 

In solo PvP, you won't need to do that. This is about group PvP where your CCs will either get broken or dispelled and that's no longer an option.

 

i think they will get it back as it was....look at the hate!...lawl