Damage Reduction

watch out temp and glads no more insignia wahahaha

 

Just because it's logical, doesn't mean it's the right solution. If it was that simple, I wouldn't have to complain. That isn't guessing why a skill was put in the game, that's using logical reasoning as you've stated. Skills in games like this have their times of uselessness and usefulness as I've stated.

I compared the two skills because they serve just as much purpose in PvP. 4 seconds to get mana that you're going to spend in 2 seconds on low MP consumption skills that couldn't take down a target?

Once again... why would I complain about something I like? I wanted things to work the way they should, but if they're working to my favor, then should I care?

 

yeah actually...temps were beatable (some were) with insignia which is 50% drop, the change atm is a passive 20% drop from what it has been. shouldnt be so bad

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although its funny if u think about it xD they effectively took away all the % pvp dmg full abg added now u do the same dmg as no pvp boost at 40% rate xD

 

/facepalm. I'd be better off arguing with a brick wall. Using a major mana potion + mana treatment regens a shitton of mp. Simply because you're ignorant to the fact that is IS useful doesn't make it not. You're the only sorc I see complaining about this, and I've had quite a few people agree with me.
Bold for contradicting statement.

 

I hate this!!......

 

True that, true that.

 

Unfortunately, the core of Aion is the biggest culprit as far as inbalance goes. NCsoft never was any good at that sort of thing, apparently.

It's unlikely that we here at gamez can make sweeping changes to balance Aion without making a lot of people unhappy, as I can assure everyone it would consist of more nerfs than buffs.

The deal with insignias is kind of the same thing. It makes half the people happy, and half upset. Remove them, and that balance flipflops.

 

Contradicting statement with truth to it. Don't leave out the small details. And maybe I'm the only sorc complaining about it because I made the opening post? See the people that thanked it? It's not just you that people agree with.

 

Are those equipment % really connected to the reduction %, like of the same value?

 

I can agree with this. The game's core mechanics are flawed in many ways but the most we can do is make what we can of it xD

I'm grateful about the work Alente has done, but sometimes there's things I disagree with and will speak up about.

 

I'm not leaving out any small details, you're just openly contradicting yourself. "I want things to work properly, but if they don't I don't care as long as it favors me" That's contradicting.
As far as I know only one of those people that thanked you post plays a sorc. And simple thanking doesn't equal a complaint.

 

% boost and % reduction should cancel it out. although ur gona feel the effect differently in terms of the actual dmg coz ur gona see it as if the 40% passive reduction they had till now wasnt there ^^

the difference between the 40% back then and 60% now is 50% increase in reduction to what there was. idk ill login sometime later today and really test it out. havent been on yet much coz i gota study for midterms tomorrow >.>

 

So... me contradicting myself.... with that sentence... has anything to do with the initial post? Sorry, let's stay on topic.

How many people that actually play the game do you think comes on forums? Making decisions based off people on forums is like saying 1 person is the voice of 10. As long as the people who have the ability to change the game mechanics considers that I put my time into the thread and have made valid points, then the purpose of my thread is served.

 

I like how you wanna get back on topic nao.
To be honest it is on topic, it goes to show your lack of credibility and proves this is more a QQ thread than anything.
And who's going off topic now...?
Your argument HAS no valid points. I've proved that 15 times now by telling you ways to conserve your mana. You just seem to think that I'm an imbecile and ramble about impossibilities. I'd much rather you be honest with everyone and say you hate not being able to 4 shot everyone.

 

That is correct, but- going back to the topic, i would say 50% reduction is enough for all of us, i mean, dont you think this kind of update (60%) is a little unfair for some classes, and yes why not put back insignias, for they make battles last longer, not reducing the world wide system, but i dunno opinions do matter in this current issue.

i was replying to Mysterica..

 

Nao is gud. Lack of credibility means QQ? I guess if that's how you want it then it may as well be a QQ thread.

You proved to me 15 times right... I've countered them all 15 times wiht my own reasons. If I thought of you that way, then I wouldn't be trying to explain to you why your ways are less useful in the situation that I've stated. Quite honestly, I would enjoy 4-shotting everyone, if it meant that they could 4-shot me if they outwitted me as well.

 

Ok so i have now logged in and played a few duel's and it actually seems like its not all that much of a difference to me i fought a temp and i fought a glad and my dmg was a bit lower but i still did some serious dmg and i guess maybe if the duels/pvp aren't all too fast it will improve ppl's skill with their class in the end..

The dmg i received from the armsfused spear was also now kinda manageable so im almost convinced this was a good move. IM pretty sure all the easy mode glads with their armsfused weps that will be forced to actually have some skill to kill ppl will Q.Q majorly about this, but hey living is learning and i guess thats what they will have to do

 

Insignia was 50% added to the defaulted status I would assume, basically reduction was only added by 20%.

 

Okay I didn't really read all 18pages of this post, but I'll put my 2 cents in on the damage reduction.

This, whether or not you believe it, makes the game require more SKILL and makes it more retail-like. Why?
Before: A ranger comes up to you while in hide, and you're unaware because you forgot Hunters Eye. Ranger advances you, stuns you two times while doing 2 hard hitting skills, you die. End.
Now: Ranger comes up to you while in hide, you're unaware like before. He advances you, tries to stun you but you're able to counter, use other disabling skills, stun again and DPS more, ect and have an actual BATTLE.
Which do YOU like more? To be honest, the people who will survive this are the ones that know how to PVP. Pressing deadly/agonizing and winning isn't pvp. Pressing sure strike and an aoe and winning isn't PVP. That's facerolling and it's completely pointless. It requires no skills, just like ganking a AFK person. Yes, temps and glads and ESPECIALLY clerics are a little OP now and the defense SHOULD be reduced a tad due to this.
For those who say "Hardcore pvp plz. Lemme hit 10k plz. Lemme 2hit you bc I fail plz", get some skill and stop QQing >_> ADAPT. Learn how to use your skills the way retail wanted it (in other words no more one skill kills), and you'll do perfectly fine in this new, and in my opinion improved, environment.
Sorry for the essay I wrote :andy:

 

Disagreeing with particular aspects of updates is normal. Even I don't agree with everything, however voicing our concerns in a rational, and constructive way is the best way to get positive feedback regarding our concerns. While people may have contradicting opinions regarding this, or that...as long as we're constructive instead of exploding with rage all over the place things are good.

There is already a discussion regarding the fairness of insignias posted up by Alente, with a poll on it. Aside from some derailing, there is a lot of discussion regarding the issue there and some insight can be gained.

Don't quote me on this, but, I think there is a decent chance insignias will either be nerfed, or removed on the next update which will happen whenever Carl and Alente are feeling motivated next.

Who knows though.

Edit: my net's been out all friggin' day...i think i might've missed something -checks the updates board-