Damage Reduction

It would be a good move, if ABG gear wasn't so abundant on the server for donators. But if you fight someone with ABG and you didn't have any PvP Atk additional stats, your damage would only tickle them. That's where my complaint is

EDIT: Even with 24% PvP atk and over 2k boost, my spells did less damage than their base damage on a glad with full ABG and no buffs, and that makes no sense no matter how you think about it.

 

I don't have time to read this thread as its my birthday in a couple hours and I have shit to do tomorrow but just to clear up a misconception.

We did not add what is effectively a 60% damage shield to players, the difference in damage reduction was from 40 to 60 (Retail actually being 50 so we were taking more damage than retail to begin with stigma trees not withstanding)

The effective percentile change to the damage calculation was 20% Not 50, not 60, not 40. A 20% difference.

It is not the same as a permanent insignia passive by any means. On that note Siel finally crashed so I get to sleep now, toodles.

EDIT: Sanctus you're behind.. go read the patch notes nab.

 

yes insignia added reduction on top of the base so insignia=50% +any pvp reduction(if the % on armour actually works) + defence = POO xD

i like this new system tbh.

 

hmmm- yes that is true, but this update makes pvp last longer, and especially for templars, i as a gladiator say that templars can nerf the attacks i throw at them, and make pvp impossible, and even other classes might find difficult to kill,

20% reduction is like having another layer of 100 bucks of ABG armor in your status =.=.... anyway i dont get why atlente mentioned, the "QQ ers " when he made this update.

 

HAPPY FRIGGIN BDAY ! (in a few hrs)

 

If the ways I've stated seem THAT much in left field, then you pvp with the wrong group of people.
Basically this long winded argument shows we obviously have differences in pvp tactic. Regardless there ARE ways to reserve your mana even if they aren't the most suitable tactics for every situation. The simple fact that they ARE available makes blaming it on the damage reduction silly.

 

That's kind of the point >_>.

 

So in short with this damage reduction thing Assassin and Rangers can actually out-damage a sorc since sorc hit less with big damage vs hit more with less damage..


Glaciar Shard has 5000+ water damage alone and with this passive damage reduction players get to cancel a big chunk of that super long casting time skill.

 

Wow all servers have crashed all together? Siel, Lumiel and Crystal? That's a record breaker.

 

Good. Sorcs needed nerfed. Being 1hitted by sorcs would piss me off. All a sorc had to do was teleport to west, target a gov, push one button, die. Yay 182k ap... That's skill? Pfffft.:annoyed: Give me a break lool This is more retail-like. Lern2play.

 

-expects a few rollback threads for tomorrow morning-

Being a S.A.M. must be frustrating.

 

I just did. I blame my internet for being out for 8 hours...or whatever. Oh wells.

 

Mine went out as well. It kept randomly disconnecting.

One restart solved it for me. :unsure:

Edit: Modem restart that is.

 

The damage reduction is a cause, because before the change, people adapted, and liked it. Of course there were people who didn't, and made posts as well. It just happens to be me in that group this time.

I prefer solo PvP or full group vs full group. The groups I go with are always different as I prefer to go with randoms, but even in the best groups, the majority would consider someone using mana treatment stupid, as those 4 seconds could be vital IE: glacial sharding someone.

Availability doesn't mean you should have to use them, and it's obvious why they made it have such a long cast time. Not to mention that it's unaffected by cast time modifiers.

 

Look- theres like more then 100 people complaining about this thread and 100 that are not, make a poll or something a vote, majority wins, (Democracy)
Or adapt to this feature for it only changes the length of battle in PVP
But look, i believe Atlente is doing something for a greater cause, but we all must live with it, even though killing templars will take 7 mins, or assasins will be even more annoying etc... But overall enjoy the game.

 

you want to make it more balanced? FINE....make 30% dmg reduce...60 is waaaaaaaaaaay too much...and if u rly want balanced pvp make stigma system....but dmg reduce is not good....ppl with abg/donators are soo happy now lol.........

 

Read mine and Alente's post, brother. It's 20% >_>

 

The 20% is too much >.< just lower it by 10% and things would be fine. I understand you're tryin to even things out because of the all-stigmas system, but if that's really that big of a problem then I would prefer just having a stigma system.

If the game was based on every class having constant DPS then it would be reasonable, but burst damage is affected hugely by this and sometimes isn't the best way to go.

EDIT: Sorry for givin you a hard time Alente hope you have a good birthday. You can always just look back later as I'm sure most of us wouldn't mind if you decided to just take a week off; we know what you've done for us.

 

lol?...........20% and SUCH a difference....

 

30 % is way to OP, i mean i played retail 50% is good, but 60% puts a new face of flukes that i need to fix in PVP, and the almighty Fluke "Ping" *bows down* Oh speaking of which, low ping users will have a hard time killing ABG users, of course me i have a hard time too. and ABG donators might get an upperhand regarding their defenses.
The only way to solve this is to pay 100 bucks buy an ABG
or pay to get good ping...